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    Not necessarily. This is primarily an architecturally-oriented forum so the comments are usually based on aesthetics. I think this building is actually one of the better ones we have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel
    Just for my own curiosity....what does that mean when you see the floor plates? Does that mean the construction company is doing everything on the cheap side?
    I was surprised to see this one with them, sometimes a building can get away with it, sometimes it's very noticeable and makes a building look bad. I imagine money is saved in the process.

    I do agree though that this will end up looking good in the end, especially compared to some of the other ridiculous things on West 42nd. It's sleek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel
    Just for my own curiosity....what does that mean when you see the floor plates? Does that mean the construction company is doing everything on the cheap side?
    I don't think you call construction cheap(more affordable) for using what are called embeds(the steel angles embeded into the concrete). They are used as part of a system for attaching other building materials to the structure. In this case it appears to be the metal panel system of the building for which the windows will rest in/on. The embeds will be concealed by other finishes, namely the facade on the outside and interior framing and finishes on the inside. You'll never know they were ever placed there.

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    more pics, lookin good
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevykev6
    I don't think you call construction cheap(more affordable) for using what are called embeds(the steel angles embeded into the concrete). They are used as part of a system for attaching other building materials to the structure. In this case it appears to be the metal panel system of the building for which the windows will rest in/on. The embeds will be concealed by other finishes, namely the facade on the outside and interior framing and finishes on the inside. You'll never know they were ever placed there.
    I'm a little confused. Are you saying the floor plates will be covered up, and if so, how do you know?

    I would say that exposed floor plates are cheap - not on the construction side, they build what they're told, but on the part of the developer. There is a functional result - heat/cool is transmitted readily by the concrete, meaning it will be harder to keep the units warm/cool, and you'll use a lot more energy to do it. It's like not caulking your windows in a regular house.

    The same is true of PTAC units - aside from looking tacky, they leak air like crazy and are a very inefficient way to condition space. Yes, it costs more to run piping for water source heat pumps or some other system, but how long are you going to use that building for? We (meaning architects, developers, and buyers) have got to get a longer term perspective.

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    Driving south on the Henry Hudson and West Street, this building looks massive. Very nice addition, hopefully it will get some more tall neighbors.

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    Well it looks like the Sales Department is now open. I just received an email for people who would like to preview the plans.

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    I popped in the office the other day to check out the model ... but the officious saleswoman wouldn't let me past the portal without an appointment.

    "Just to look at the model?"

    "You need to make an appointment."

    So I looked at it from outside the window.

    The little white building is to remain; the empty lot between it and the Chinese Consulate is set to be a planted plaza.

    One big unknown for this building is the low-rise Verizon building that butts up to north property line (facing 43rd St. -- the white-roofed building on the right in the photo below). Clearly that site is ripe for development.

    Not sure if it is part of the parcel that has been discussed at the east end of this block @ 11th Ave:

    http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/sh...6&postcount=17

    Buyers on the north side of Atelier beware!


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    So there will be development on the east , north and west side of this project. The one on the West side on 11th, this could be a very large project.

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    Moinian closed on that site back in November 2005. It was reported that it will be demolished for new residential condo tower this year (but probably not until Atelier starts selling - so as to get top dollar for views that will be gone next year).

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    I've also heard that the next building next to it is going to be bigger

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    To the West , East or North of this property?

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    To the east...

    605 West 42nd Street
    604 West 43rd Street/563-578 11th Avenue
    Dev-Moinian Group
    ~757 units 750,768 Sq. Ft
    Residential
    Proposed 2009

    Compare this to the Atelier

    The Atelier
    621-627 West 42nd Street
    46 stories 478 feet
    Costas Kondylis & Partners
    Dev-Moinian Group
    Residential Condominium
    518,416 Sq. Ft. 478 units
    Under Construction 2004-2006

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    [QUOTE=lofter1]I popped in the office the other day to check out the model ... but the officious saleswoman wouldn't let me past the portal without an appointment."Just to look at the model?""You need to make an appointment."[QUOTE]

    Maybe she thought you were a NIMBY and wanted to look at the model to find something to object to. l-o-l

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakeholders
    From wikipedia - A participant in a community mobilization effort, representing a particular segment of society. School board members, environmental organizations, elected officials, chamber of commerce representatives, neighborhood advisory council members and religious leaders are all examples of local stakeholders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drexel
    To the West , East or North of this property?
    Yes I believe the New property will be to the North-East Corner of the Building. I bet it will a nice compliment to Atelier.

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