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    Good news, but they should build it faster.

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    Default they should extend the 6...

    Personally I think that there should be an extention of the 6 line in the Bronx, so that it traverses Pelham Parkway from the Pelham Bay side, across to Fordham or diagonally down towards High Bridge/Morris Heights. As of now, there really is no way to get across the Bronx with public transportation, except with the busses, so i guess my idea doesn't make sense. Well, in my opinion, it would be good, if the city had extra money to blow.

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    Why are the Feds not helping to fund part of this?
    They are throwing money around the country for highway and bridge projects that cater to automobiles and yet mass-transit projects here in the city get ignored by Washington.

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    Well, you know who's in charge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby
    Why are the Feds not helping to fund part of this?
    They are throwing money around the country for highway and bridge projects that cater to automobiles and yet mass-transit projects here in the city get ignored by Washington.
    Not to mention all the unnesisary money they are spending on Iraq and foreign affairs, and helping other countries before even helping their own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby
    Why are the Feds not helping to fund part of this?
    There's actually an orderly process for securing federal funds for transit capital projects (known as "new starts" ... more information here: http://www.fta.dot.gov/16893_ENG_HTML.htm). Now, there are many reasons why this process is flawed, and it does shortchange New York, but it is still a rarity in Washington: money is genuinely allocated in a competitive process.

    Basically, anybody wanting these funds has to demonstrate that a project is worthwhile, and get in line. In the case of the #7 extension, the Bloomberg Administration was willing to do neither. In contrast, 2nd Ave. Subway and East Side Access have both been winding their way through the process, and should secure sizable federal subsidies.

    The #7 Extension is a real estate venture, not a transportation project. There's little to justify federal involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmg
    The #7 Extension is a real estate venture, not a transportation project. There's little to justify federal involvement.
    Almost all of the present NYC subway system can be characterized as a real estate venture, not a solution to transportation problems in congested areas.

    The Brooklyn subways started as railroads through underveloped territory to resorts in Coney island. Development swiftly followed along the lines.

    The 2nd Ave subway is unique in that it is being built through territory already developed by the New York Elevated Railroad (3rd Ave El). The SOS is a long delayed replacement for the El.

    It is true that Bloomberg chose not to persue federal funding for the #7 because, like most subway construction, the cost would be offset by increased real estate revenue.

    Not so for the SOS, or at least not nearly to the same degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZippyTheChimp
    Almost all of the present NYC subway system can be characterized as a real estate venture, not a solution to transportation problems in congested areas.

    Not so for the SOS, or at least not nearly to the same degree.
    To maximize its potential as catalyst for development, they could run it more squarely through the East Village and add at least a stop at Tompkins Square.

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    Why there will be no stop on the SOS between 14th St. and Houston St. is a big mystery to me.

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    East Village suffers from poor subway access. SAS does nothing to alleviate this. Colossal oversight. How is this possible?

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    I think the complaint is really about the Alphabet City not the East Village . There are plenty of Subway stops in the EV but AC is left alone in that regard. SOS will not help because of it's track line and you have the Astor place on 6 line , only a block and half away from Second Avenue.. The only thing that might help to AC is another stop on the L train between 1st Av. and the East River. I don't know whether that is a possibility..

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    No. 7 Subway Line Extension
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    The No. 7 Line subway extension from Times Square towards Jacob Javits Center is an integral part of the New York City Department of City Planning Redevelopment plan for the far West Side of Manhattan. The two new stations will be at 10th Avenue/41st Street and 11th Avenue/34th Street.

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    Cool Looks like the stop at Roosevelt Island,

    which is a good thing.

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    You can also spot a dab of Calatrava influence.

    Also a good thing.

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