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    Quote Originally Posted by MidtownGuy
    This is very, very sad.

    Londonlawyer, I agree so wholeheartedly with you.
    Will New York even have any of these alehouses left soon? I wish new buildings were being designed with retail spaces that more traditional NYC businesses could occupy.
    I better start taking my camera everywhere with me- places like McHales are an endangered species and need to be documented.
    This development truly blows, amigo. This is sad news indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidtownGuy
    This is very, very sad.

    Will New York even have any of these alehouses left soon?
    Sadly, not the old gnarly ones ...

    But undoubtedly there will be plenty of new-fangled pseudo-European "pubs" such as these that now line 8th Ave. north of 42nd St.:

    46th St.: http://kevinstjames.com

    48th St.: http://www.socialbarnyc.com

    51st St.: http://miniditoonline.com

    Here's a whole list of bars in the area: http://hellskitchen.bz/restaurantsbarsprint/bars.shtml

    (I won't tell you where the good ones are )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
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    Looks very New Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    (I won't tell you where the good ones are )
    Do they have dancing girls?

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    Nope -- but you might try here: http://www.exoticdancecentral.com/id42.html

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    Smiths bar is featured in the opening of Night Court, a great TV Sitcom from the 1980's.

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    Default Oh God. Costas, it's 2006. I beg you to please do better than this...please!

    "Historic" first transfer of air-rights in Theater District debated 04-APR-06




    In a rather thrilling and almost gladiatorial bout, the land-use committees of Community Boards 4 and 5 last night considered a request for comment from a developer wishing to use air-rights in the theater district for a new residential condominium tower on the northeast corner of Eighth Avenue and 46th Street.
    After an impassioned, two-hour meeting on the request, the committees decided to not endorse the project on procedural rather than qualitative grounds and began to draft a resolution outlining their concerns to the City Planning Commission.

    Anna Levin, the chairperson of the land-use committee of Community Board 4, chaired the meeting and stated that while the committee was very supportive of the general outlines of the proposed building and transfer of air-rights, it believed that the entire plan should be presented rather than one part and that important issues remained to be resolved regarded a fund set up to manage funds contributed by developers using air rights from the theater district and that concerns about the relocation of theatrical organizations evicted for new projects using the air rights should be addressed.

    Paul Selver of the law firm of Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel represented the developer, SJP Residential Properties of Parsipanny, N.J., of which Stephen J. Pozycki and Allen F. Goldman are principals, of the planned building at 750 Eighth Avenue on the former site of a building that housed McHale’s restaurant.

    Mr. Selver said the application was “an historic occasion” as it was the first project to attempt to utilize transferable air-rights created in 1998 but on the drawing boards for “over a generation.

    The proposed building is a 38-story tower with 195 apartments designed by Costas Kondylis that would use air rights from the Al Hirschfeld Theater (formerly the Martin Beck Theater) on 45th Street between Eighth and Ninth Avenues as well as air rights from the Brooks Atkinson Theater on West 47th Street.

    Under questioning, Mr. Selver indicated that while the developer was seeking approval initially only for the “discrete” application before the committees, it had larger plans. Those plans included seeking a zoning text-change to permit the transfer of other air-rights from a theater on 47th Street that would enlarge the building at 750 Eighth Avenue to 42 stories and 220 apartments.

    As part of the special district’s air-rights transfer requirements, the developer would contribute $10 per square foot of transferred air rights into a special theater district fund.

    Joe Restuccia, the executive director of the Clinton Housing Development Company, suggested that the rate of $10 was perhaps too low as it was set in 1998 and that the market has changed.

    Jack Goldstein, a former executive director of Save The Theaters Inc., and the Theater Development Fund, argued that the transfer of air rights should not be permitted until the special fund was created and its purposes clarified. He noted that originally the fund was intended to help finance theatrical productions, but is now apparently being planned to finance theatrical education in the city’s school system.

    Representatives of the New Perspectives Theater claimed that it had been evicted from the McHale’s building without any relocation assistance despite assurances to the community board from some local politicians that such assistance would be forthcoming.

    Mr. Restuccia suggested that the developer withdraw his application so that the “entire package” could be addressed and resubmitted, but Mr. Selver said “no.”

    Val Libin, production director of Jujamcyn Theaters, the owner of the Al Hirschfeld Theater, stressed his organization’s desire to preserve and promote “legitimate theater” in the city.

    Mr. Selver indicated that “there is another site” on Broadway at 54th Street that is likely to soon seek to use air-rights from a theater to develop a residential tower.

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    I can't take any more Kondylis buildings. The guy's filling up the place with dumb designs.

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    You said it!
    I thought he turned the corner with the Remy, but with this as his latest offering, I can't help but want to cry. If we're going to spiffy up the 8th, we at least should go all out with showcase-like beauty, drop dead gorgeous architecture, but sadly, that will not be the case.

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    Sam's, Longtime Theatre District Hangout, Shuts Doors April 20

    By Robert Simonson
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    April 21, 2006

    Sam's, a bar and restaurant on West 45th Street near Eighth Avenue that was popular with theatre professionals, closed for good on April 20, becoming the latest theatre district watering hole to be driven under by the soaring New York real estate market.

    Responding to a sandwich board on the sidewalk that said "Sam's last night. Come in and have one last beer," a group of stage workers gathered a few deep at the bar of the modest eatery, whose arches of exposed brick, Christmas lights and nightly piano music made it a cozy place to gather after a performance.

    Sam's is the fourth low-slung, old-time theatre mecca to shutter in the West 40s in the past year. JR's, on the south side of W. 46th Street near Eighth Avenue, ceased operations in July 2005. Its neighbor across the street, McHale's, ended a 50-year run in the same location in January of this year. And Barrymore's, Sam's next-door neighbor, served its last drink soon after.

    The closure of Sam's and Barrymore's, as well as that of a storefront that lies between them, has lent the northwestern half of the block a boarded-up, depressed attitude that sits in stark contrast with the rest of the strip, which boasts several theatres and is one of the most vibrant sections of the Broadway district. A sign on what was once Barrymore's bears the forlorn message: "Closed forever. Thanks to all."

    No plans for the spaces occupied by JR's, Sam's, and Barrymore's have been announced, but it is expected that a high-rise hotel will take their place.

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    There also was an article in The NY Sun on April 21st stating that new towers will rise on the west side of 8th at both 47th and 48th Streets. This is great news.

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    So that is 5 new towers along that stretch of 8th Avenue (Google MAP ) ...

    1. NE corner of 45th / 8th

    2. NE corner of 46th / 8th

    3. NW corner of 46th / 8th

    4. NW corner of 47th / 8th

    5. NW corner of 48th / 8th
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    No more problems opening a bank account or buying toothpaste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1
    4. NW corner of 47th / 8th

    5. NW corner of 48th / 8th
    I wasn't aware of these 2.

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    News to me as well ...

    But londonlawyer says there was mention of them in yesterday's NY Sun (not available online without registration )

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