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    And on the next block we will have this other tall one...



    Girasol...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stern View Post
    Anyone else reminded?
    Quote Originally Posted by kz1000ps View Post
    yet it's doesn't shout out "look at me" the way a Libeskind torquing design would.
    No, not at all, Stern. Not at all

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    Don't forget the twisting tower was actually Child's idea. This building has the same corporate geometric type of twist, Libeskind's twists are like his other design elements, more abstract. I'm not complaining though, while this is far from a great design, it will make a nice and substantial impact on the skyline, far better than what I expect from Moinian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stern View Post
    This is the same size of Moinian's 42nd Street project
    ^ 605 W. 42nd is around 1 million sq ft. and 57 stories... not fair to call the 1,000+ ft , 1.6 million sqft Girasole the same size as that project.

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    I'm still confused about why the cheapest option for Javitz isn't just to build over the railyards and transfer air rights for the towers around the convention center. The convention center would probably help make this area viable. The Jets were icing on the cake and not that important.

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    Default by the way, is this office or a hotel?

    Is this building an office building or a hotel for the convention center? I'm hoping its office space - we need more of that in midtown.

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    I like this tower. I think it is pretty elegant, and considering that it will be solar power generating, it is has an optimal location. It can soak up a lot of that afternoon sun coming over from Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by investordude View Post
    I'm still confused about why the cheapest option for Javitz isn't just to build over the railyards and transfer air rights for the towers around the convention center.
    Yes! A bigger convention center at the railyards would be built without interfering with the Javits' current operations -- and when it's done, the Javits site could be redeveloped as the new 7 line opens. The street grid in the 30s could be restored down to the river.

    Anyway, this tower looks good. Maybe it'll deliver those sky gardens we were promised at NYT and at Ground Zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by investordude View Post
    I'm still confused about why the cheapest option for Javitz isn't just to build over the railyards and transfer air rights for the towers around the convention center. The convention center would probably help make this area viable. The Jets were icing on the cake and not that important.
    Just know that common sense has no place in this city. Everything has to be long, drawn out and full of battles and even then nothing will still prevail.

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    The only impressive about this Girasole thing is the height and the little cut out at the top. Otherwise, it's just another ordinary tower.

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    Boy I didnt think height would impede peoples judments so much in this forum. For a second there I thought this was SSP . Does it look good cuz its tall? I mean, would people go gaga for this same design was say 600-700 feet?? I wonder.

    As far as I'm concerned this looks like The Link on steroids. Banal monotonous flat glass on all sides, the notch on the left just looks plain stupid and the one glimmer of potential in its deisgn- the torque effect- is very poorly done. Also, we have the looks of another stupid looking crown.

    The ESB deserves better company.

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    By the way, where did they get this Girasole name from and what exactly does it mean? Is it Latin?

    Rhymes with Geritol.

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    I have to agree with Trepye's assertions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TREPYE View Post
    The ESB deserves better company.
    ??

    These proposals are nearly a mile from the ESB. That's like saying anything on the island from 14th to 54th streets should defer to it. Come on now, you know better.

    And for the record, there's two notches up top, catty-corner to eachother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krulltime View Post
    And on the next block we will have this other tall one...



    Girasol...

    What is that first tower called? Is it approved?

    The Girasol looks pretty good IMO. It's not the best looking building ever, but it looks good enough. The addition of a rooftop garden is always great.

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