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    Some advice on the book: you should jazz it up a little.

    The public today wants dirt. Most of those people are dead anyway, so it's your word against theirs.

    We want to hear about how Johnny Carson stopped the elevator and exposed himself; how Truman Capote taught you how to snort; how, because of her drinking, Dina Merrill was known around the building as "Dino".

    We want lesbian relationships, bad wiring, cockroaches and rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    We want lesbian relationships, bad wiring, cockroaches and rats.
    Evidently, vacation has left you in fine fettle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    Some advice on the book: you should jazz it up a little.

    The public today wants dirt. Most of those people are dead anyway, so it's your word against theirs.

    We want to hear about how Johnny Carson stopped the elevator and exposed himself; how Truman Capote taught you how to snort; how, because of her drinking, Dina Merrill was known around the building as "Dino".

    We want lesbian relationships, bad wiring, cockroaches and rats.
    Wow, I had noooooooo idea Dina Merrill was a drinker! I saw her at this opening in Beverly Hills and the first thing I mentioned to her was the UN Plaza. She did not remember me, but laughed when I started talking to her about my novel UN PLAZA MEMOIRS... She seemed very tickled and she said she STILL LIVED THERE in the same apartment! WOW~ she didn't look like a drinking woman, not old looking or bad! But we started talking about the building and all the crazy antics that happened and suddenly I found myelf whisked away by these guys in blue suits and the media started interviewing her! Weird. But, you are right, that is really honest of you to say so. But, not all books have to be that way. I actually sort of wrote it for kids! There is an age group that would like it. Not all books have to be that way.
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    U.N. CONDOS W/ VIEW
    ZECKENDORFS PLAN SUPER HIGH-END LUXE 40-STORY TOWER



    July 3, 2007 -- SOME property sales are more interesting on paper than in the real world - but definitely not in that category is a just completed deal, which has implications for all involved in it and for its neighborhood.

    Developer Harry Macklowe just sold 10 UN Plaza, a/k/a 823 First Ave., to Eyal Ofer's Global Holdings and William Lie Zeckendorf and Arthur Zeckendorf for $160 million, we've learned.

    The buyers are the same team behind 15 Central Park West, the breakthrough, twin-towered project that brought super-luxe apartments to the big site just north of Time Warner Center that was long home to the Mayflower Hotel and an empty lot.

    The 10 UN Plaza site - on the west side of First Avenue between East 46th and 47th streets - now holds the remnants of a two-story building being demolished.

    There, the Zeckendorfs plan a 242,000 square-foot, "super high-end luxury condominium" tower with "spectacular, open vistas," William Zeckendorf said.

    Sources said it will likely rise 40 stories or more.

    Studley Capital Transactions Group chief Woody Heller, with the group's Will Silverman and David Endelman, represented Macklowe Properties and brought in the buyers.

    Heller called the 20,000 square-foot site facing the UN Sculpture Garden and bordering Dag Hammerskjold Plaza "one of the most exciting development sites in Manhattan."

    The inexhaustibly prolific Macklowe bought the land in late 2005 for $101 million. He said, "While this is a project we had anticipated developing ourselves, Will and Arthur's enthusiasm convinced us to consider selling it. We are confident they'll create a beautiful and very successful building."

    Heller said the Zeckendorfs "pre-empted" other bids when they swooped in two weeks after the land went on the market and closed on it in 30 days.

    The new owners will likely build just as swiftly, because they must have a foundation in place by the end of the year to qualify for the city's 421-A real estate tax abatement program.

    Coincidentally, the buyers' 15 Central Park West is next door to Donald Trump's Trump Hotel and Tower, just as its new First Avenue site is next door to Trump World Tower.

    South-facing residents of the latter can expect to have views blocked by their new neighbor.

    The sale will surely fuel recent buzz, reported yesterday in The Wall Street Journal, that Harry and Billy Macklowe might also sell some of the eight Manhattan office buildings they bought from Blackstone this year to "ease refinancing" of the $7 billion purchase.

    But a source familiar with 10 UN Plaza said its sale had mostly to do with the fact that the Macklowes just have too many development projects on their plate at once - including major new office towers at 510 Madison Ave. and at the former Drake Hotel site.


    Copyright 2007 NYP Holdings, Inc.

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    Does anyone know if Piano's architectural plans for the site were included in the sale?

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    Not sure but hopefully....if not at least the Zeckendorfs are very reputable. If this is taller than 500 feet I would expect another fight too.

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    Hey Sfenn, where did you first hear the site was being sold?
    I hope Zeckendorf does not select the likes of Frank Williams or Robert A.M.. I like the cold modern feel of the area.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    I hope Zeckendorf does not select the likes of Frank Williams or Robert A.M.. I like the cold modern feel of the area.
    I agree; The United Nations, The Ford Foundation, Trump World Tower, 860-870 UN Plaza, 1 and 2 UN Plaza, Daj Hammarskjold Plaza, perhaps the greatest collection of modern architecture in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    Hey Sfenn, where did you first hear the site was being sold?
    I hope Zeckendorf does not select the likes of Frank Williams or Robert A.M.. I like the cold modern feel of the area.
    It was mentioned in a blurb not too long ago, but it is funny that 3 days after I mention it the news comes out

    I agree about the area also, and Piano would be near the top of the list for best architects to use at this site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    Looks like this one will be joined by another new project just down the block (the site is hidden behind the trees in the above photo).

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    A full building permit has finally been filed. 40 stories 520'

    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

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    We still don't know who the design architect is though. If it's SLCE, then there goes any hope of getting something unique and magnificent.

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    Zeckendorf doesn't put up crap. I think this will be Midtown's next celebrity architect addition. On a very visible site, it will rise 40 stories, 520+ feet with only 79 units.




    Recently approved permit indicates foundation work will continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derek2k3 View Post
    Zeckendorf doesn't put up crap.
    Fo' shore.

    I think he has learned from 15CPW that if you build something that looks good, they will come (with the money - and lots of it).

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    I live in a building on 45th and my views of the river are going to be affected somewhat by this new building (thankfully not in full). I'd like to know how far setback the new building will be from both 1st avenue and 46th street. I've been all over the DOB website and the only thing that comes close is a rendering which was part of a sewer hookup application that I'm not sure is to scale. Does anyone know of a good way to go about finding out the new building's specs? Any help is much appreciated.

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