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Thread: 200 Greenwich Street - Proposed WTC Tower #2 - by Norman Foster

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    HA! If NYC had office buildings like Shanghai Tower I'd say yes definitely, but our office buildings aren't all that special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stache View Post
    I hate this building. It belongs in Texas.

    Too True

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Too True
    You're both being a tad harsh. Though I really doubt if any future T2 will actually look like it does in current renders and designs, I think it's a pretty bold and noble effort for downtown NYC.

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    How can they change the design? Isn't the current foundation specific to the proposed design?

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    I'm sure they can flatten the top. So brace yourself.

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    How can they change the design? Isn't the current foundation specific to the proposed design?
    The foundation/basement levels will impact the interior of the tower but they would have plenty of wiggle room on the exteriors.

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    The foundation is little more than a square mat at this point. They could build the Taj Mahal on it if they so chose.

    Wait....idea?

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    Too expensive.

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    Switch from limestone to textured composite panels and we can get it done.

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    The foundation only determines the biggest thing they can raise, weight and torque wise. They can always put something smaller there as long as the loads don't go over the limit.

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    So the webcams make it look like they are reinstalling curb on the south side of Vesey St. Are we going to see Vesey reopened in the near future? Will it continue to be pedestrian only (but way wider than it has been for years), or are they going to allow traffic through to Greenwich right away? Thanks to whoever has an answer. This would be a big boon to PATH riders (and really anyone stuck walking around down here at rush hour).

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    The last I heard, Greenwich St will be opened from Dey St to Liberty St sometime this year; the northern half to Vesey St not until 2016.

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    I'd be amazed if the northern part was open even then. That said, Greenwich is Southbound, and currently all southbound traffic basically has to turn east at Park Pl, or west at Barclay. This would allow traffic to continue south to Vesey and turn east. Being able to do so would simplify vehicular access to the Brooklyn Bridge from points north and west, especially with the continued construction (rebuilding) on Chambers St. I know I'm not a huge fan of making driving way easier, but this might help some with traffic flow in a good way.

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    The traffic patterns are going to be dictated by the NYPD (I'm not going to use the C-word) security plan.

    Vesey St from Church St to West St will be one-way westbound, except for a small section at the PAC loading ramps which will be two-way.

    Although Greenwich St runs through the site, access will be from West Broadway; there'll be a security screening area near the post office. Greenwich St traffic will have to get to West Broadway to continue south, or forced west at Barclay St. The section of Greenwich St in front of 7WTC is not mapped; private property owned by Silverstein.

    Vesey St has to be westbound so that traffic entering the secure zone from the south - at Church and Liberty - will have access to Greenwich St.

    I just hope we'll all be allowed to walk wherever we want.

    What about bicycles?

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    Any predictions on when this building will be built?

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