Reply With QuoteCould is be yet another good idea lifted from Wired NY? (See above post from July 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM.)Originally Posted by alonzo-ny
I love this line!
"If the barge sank, it might make a nice natural reef," said Bill Love, member of Community Board 1 who opposes putting the staircase in Battery Park City, where he lives.
Could is be yet another good idea lifted from Wired NY? (See above post from July 23rd, 2007, 06:40 PM.)
Or this one from March. cough. cough.
http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/sh...&postcount=661
Wow. From way back in March! Until someone finds an earlier citation, TonyO is for now the originator of the Staircase as Maritime Reef concept. Congrats!
Damn
Is there a fund I can donate to in order to set in to motion the sinking of this god awful stairway?
Here is the ad campaign
I love it. Our very own graphic interpreter. Bravo!
Sweet!
NY Times
Stairs to Remain Intact in Ground Zero Plan
By DAVID W. DUNLAP
Published: August 6, 2007
The Spitzer administration says it has taken steps to finally solve the quandary of the “survivors’ stairway” at ground zero.
By that, it means every step — all 38 of them. Together.
Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s chief of downtown redevelopment, Avi Schick, proposes to keep the stairway whole and intact — but just the seven-foot-wide stairway proper, not the hulking concrete structure around it.
Held together and supported by a specially designed truss, the stairs would be moved out of the way of the planned 2 World Trade Center office tower. Eventually, they would be set into a long flight of steps leading from the visitors’ center at ground zero to the underground World Trade Center memorial museum, which is to open in 2009.
The stairway served as an escape route on 9/11 and is the only aboveground remnant of the original trade center complex still in place. It stands near Vesey Street, on part of the site where Tower 2 is to rise.
For months, preservationists, survivors of the attack, neighbors, officials and development executives have fought over how much of this ragged but evocative structure ought to be saved and where it ought to end up.
Advocates have portrayed the stairway as a haunting symbol of the resilience, heroism and sheer good luck of those who found a tortuous way to safety on Sept. 11, 2001. Some expressed the hope that the entire structure would be preserved in place. Critics have dismissed the stairway as an obstruction and an eyesore that lost much of its meaning when it was badly damaged — not by the attack, but during the recovery and cleanup. Some just wanted it torn down.
Under the Pataki administration, the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation proposed to disassemble the stairway, leaving some granite stair treads in their original location, but reoriented within the staircase to the lobby of Tower 2. The bottommost tread was to have been moved off and set into the memorial plaza. Other treads might have been used within the memorial museum.
Under the Spitzer plan, visitors would walk alongside the survivors’ stairway during their descent into the museum.
“They’re experiencing the path of travel just as someone else experienced it,” said Mr. Schick, who is the president of the Empire State Development Corporation, the chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation and a director of the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation.
In an interview on Thursday, he said: “The stairs are a potent reminder of the path to salvation and survival that many people had. We were able to separate what the stairs mean from what the structure means.”
He added, “The plan we walked into was an embarrassment to government.”
Though the larger structure around the stairway would not be preserved, Mr. Schick said some elements would be salvaged, perhaps most important the granite landing at the top, which would be set into the memorial plaza.
The new proposal must undergo scrutiny in a federal preservation review known as the Section 106 process, which covers historical resources affected by projects financed with federal money, as is the case at ground zero.
There is no guarantee that the latest proposal will ultimately be adopted. But two leaders of the fight to save the stairway said on Friday that they were pleased with the plan.
“Obviously, we would have loved to see the staircase above ground,” said Peg Breen, the president of the New York Landmarks Conservancy. “But Avi Schick and the Spitzer administration put an enormous amount of thought into coming up with a respectful solution. I think they achieved it. There will be stairs, not just treads, and the museum will work to interpret them. The earlier proposal just chopped it into shreds, essentially.”
Richard Zimbler, the vice president of the World Trade Center Survivors’ Network, said the Spitzer administration’s proposal would do justice to the structure’s symbolic value. He added that he was confident the museum would successfully display the stairs and explain their context.
“The most important elements of the stairway are those parts that look like a stairway,” he said. “And that’s exactly the proposal: to preserve all the steps.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/06/ny...on&oref=slogin
For me the only thing remaining that feels like it was part of the trade center is the doors going from the e train to the path terminal, i can almost imagine im walking into the concourse of the mall there. The stairs are useless now and should have been pulled down with the rest of the building next to it.
Still, this is a very good result. It gets them out of the way of the redevelopment, and puts the relevant parts in a museum where they belong.
Yes, a road block has been removed from the development of 200 Greenwich Street. Everyone is happy, now on with the development!
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Rendering posted on Curbed:
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Last edited by fioco; August 6th, 2007 at 04:59 PM. Reason: proper citation of photo
So, you can't walk on the stairs
maybe they should run some water down them ...
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