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    More on Duarte Square:

    Duarte statue to remain center of his namesake square


    Downtown Express photo by Albert Amateau
    Many Community Board 2 members like the new planto expand and redesign Duarte Square on Canal St.
    The statue of Juan Pablo Duarte, a founder of
    the Dominican Republic, will remain in the center
    of the square and trees will be added.
    Trinity Real Estate, which is paying for the renovation,
    will demolish the building in the background and build
    a 22-story office building.

    By Albert Amateau

    January 2005

    http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_87/duartestatue.html

    The new design for Duarte Sq., the brick triangle on the north side Canal St. at Sixth Ave., which calls for keeping the statue of Juan Pablo Duarte in the middle of the triangle near its present position, won a vote of approval this week from the Community Board 2 parks committee.

    The new design, by Stephen Whitehouse of Saratoga Associates, was seen as a welcome change from the plan submitted more than two years ago as part of a complex land-swap between Trinity Real Estate, which owns the property on the west side of the square, and the Department of Parks and Recreation.

    The old design called for moving the statue of Duarte, a founder of the Dominican Republic, to the southern apex of the triangle at Canal St. and away from a central open area where Dominican-Americans hold an annual commemoration. The previous design had angled paths with plantings between them.

    The new design would add some green to what is now a barren brick triangle, provide an open paved area around the statue, and a fountain with jets at-grade “so that when they’re turned off you can’t see them,” Whitehouse said. More trees are planned for the north end of the triangle at Grand St. and on the south to soften Canal St. traffic’s impact on the park.

    “You’ve addressed all the concerns we had and I congratulate you,” Tobi Bergman, a parks committee member, told Whitehouse and Robert Redmond, who will oversee the project for the Parks Department. Nevertheless, committee members at the Jan. 6 meeting hedged their approval by calling for more seating to be included in the new plan and for an adequate irrigation system to make sure the trees survive.

    The Empire State Building is within the view corridor from Duarte Sq. to the north and the new Freedom Tower planned for the World Trade Center site will be within the view corridor to the south, Whitehouse noted.

    As part of the land-use changes two years ago, a service road on the west side of the square, formerly the southern end of Sullivan St., was de-mapped and added to the Trinity Real Estate property across the street. It allows Trinity to replace its current three-to-eight-story buildings on the block with a 22-story building.

    Trinity owns the de-mapped street but gives the Parks Department an easement and jurisdiction over the expanded area up to Trinity’s property line. The change, which went into effect at the end of 2002, expands the park area by 40 percent and adds 38 percent to Trinity’s zoning lot.

    In return, Trinity will pay for the park project and also for the park maintenance. Redmond said the maintenance would be more than $30,000 a year.

    Committee members were anxious about Trinity’s commitment to fund the maintenance. Adrienne Bernard, a lawyer for Trinity who attended the meeting, said the arrangement with the Parks Department would probably involve putting money in a trust controlled by Parks. “It would be for the life of the building, 80, 90, 100 years,” she estimated. We’ll do it anyway that Parks wants,” she said.

    Richard Barrett, a member of the Canal West Coalition, noted that the plan had no trees in the area where the remnant of Sullivan St. used to be. “You can still see the ghost of the street,” he said.

    The former street, however, has a sewer line beneath the surface and trees cannot be planted over it, Redmond said. It was designed to look like a park path, a broad park path,” added Whitehouse.

    Other committee members suggested that the design should have considered Duarte’s relationship with the proposed Laight St. Park, a triangle on the other side of Canal St. Sidewalks around the Laight St. triangle, formerly used as a parking lot by police and Port Authority employees, have been built but the park has not yet been designed, Redmond said.

    Bergman also regretted that an extremely tall light pole — about as tall as the eight-story Trinity building on the west side of the square, could not remain in the new Duarte Sq.

    Committee members said they were pleased that the design did not make it look like the park was a part of the Trinity property. Trinity agreed two years ago that tenants on the ground floor of its future building fronting the park would not be permitted to put a sidewalk café on the park.






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    Kind of bizarre that this statue on Canal St, rather than in, say, Washington Heights (probably the largest concentration of Dominicans outside of the Dominican Republic). You'd figure it would belong in the middle of a a big intersection/square uptown.

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    Duarte Square was dedicated in 1945, long before there was a significant Dominican neighborhood in New York. 6th Ave was renamed Avenue of the Americas to celebrate Pan-American unity.

    Real New Yorkers still call it 6th Ave.

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    I only call it Sixth Ave. because it's shorter to say. Anyway, I notice that the only time you see Sixth Ave. referred to as Ave. of the Americas is on company addresses.

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    Even the city has taken to posting "Sixth Ave" signs underneath the "Avenue of The Americas" street signs. It makes life so much easier for tourists.

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    ^ No my friend, it takes the fun out of me watching them miserably walk in circles .

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    Thumbs up Finally, here it is...

    DOWNTOWN DONALD PLANS LUXURY SOHO CONDO-HOTEL



    SUMPTUOUS IN SOHO: Donald Trump, daughter Ivanka
    and son Donald Trump Jr. are taking their developing
    act to SoHo. Above is a rendering of their planned
    45-story luxury hotel tower.




    By BRADEN KEIL

    June 5, 2006-- Donald Trump is submitting plans to construct a 45-story luxury high-rise condominium hotel on the outskirts of SoHo, The Post has learned.
    And barring any glitches in the approval process, groundbreaking on the structure at 246 Spring, between Varick St. and Sixth Avenue, is expected to begin before the end of this year, according to Donald Trump Jr. - who, along with his father and sister Ivanka, is overseeing the project.

    It will also be one of the two projects that will be offered to tonight's winner of "The Apprentice."

    Included in the plans for the development, whose working name is Trump International Hotel & Tower SoHo, are more than 400 hotel condo rooms and suites, a spa facility and a high-end restaurant. It also calls for 28,000 square feet of retail space.

    While the hotel will have the typical Trump glitz, with the public rooms designed by renowned architect David Rockwell, Trump Jr. said the vibe will be a younger "downtown chic" version of Trump International Hotel & Tower at Columbus Circle.

    The building, which will rise in a fringe area of SoHo - about three blocks from the Holland Tunnel - will tower above the nondescript neighborhood.

    "You're going to get incredible 360-degree views from about the 12th floor up," said Trump Jr. "They're almost like the views in Jersey City of Manhattan, but you're still in New York."

    "I'm very excited to hear about it," said developer Steven Witkoff, who has several downtown projects in the works including the condo conversion of the Woolworth Building and Cipriani Club Residences now being marketed at 55 Wall St.

    "[Trump's] very creative and he always brings sizzle to an area."

    The developers of the building include Tamir Sapir, the former cab driver who made headlines by paying $40 million for the Duke Semans mansion.

    Copyright 2006 NYP Holdings, Inc.

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    I figured that was the site.

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    "You're going to get incredible 360-degree views from about the 12th floor up," said Trump Jr. "They're almost like the views in Jersey City of Manhattan, but you're still in New York."
    Clunky architecture is another thing it has in common with Jersey City.

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    I really like the tower! Better than I expected from Trump. I like how the tower twists a little (I think).

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    It looks fine to me as well. But it appears to be a wedge rather than a twist.

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    Google MAP of the site.
    "You're going to get incredible 360-degree views from about the 12th floor up," said Trump Jr.
    Yep -- But only until they build on the parking lot to the south and on the site catty-corner to the NW ...

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    "The developers of the building include Tamir Sapir".

    is Trump the developer? or Tamir Sapir?

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    As everyone in the real estate business knows, Trump does not develop anything. He licenses the use of his name.

    Russians are building this www.bayrockgroup.com

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    i thought Sapir's real estate company is Zar Realty/SDS ... AT 260,,,

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