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    If you say so.

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    Next thing we know that newbie will be taking credit for the concrete collapse up top and the tragedy that went with it.

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    Trump succeeded in building his tower to full height. Zoning restrictions will change, more so in Manhattan than anywhere else in NYC. It is as inevitable as time passing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scraperfannyc View Post
    Trump succeeded in building his tower to full height. Zoning restrictions will change, more so in Manhattan than anywhere else in NYC. It is as inevitable as time passing.
    actually, right now there are 84 re-zonings that were approved throughout the city

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    Downtown Express
    http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_279/mixeduse.html

    Trump back to work
    By Patrick Hedlund

    Construction is moving forward at the Trump Soho condo-hotel on Spring St. after a partial stop-work order was lifted at the site following a series of incidents earlier this year.

    With the 42-story project once expected to be topped off by the end of 2007, the death of a construction worker at the site in January and a series of problems including glass falling from the building had staunched progress throughout the year.

    But with the stop-work order rescinded last month, work has been allowed to continue on the building’s uppermost floors, and the developers are expecting it to be fully built and enclosed in glass by as early as next month.

    “We’re going full speed ahead, and our goal is catch up as much as possible,” said Julius Schwarz, executive vice president of the Bayrock Group, the project’s co-developer. “[Trump Soho contractor] Bovis has been very diligent with all safety precautions. We’re very happy to be proceeding.”

    Department of Buildings spokesperson Kate Lindquist confirmed that the stop-work had been removed on Aug. 22 after it was first issued on Jan. 15 following the construction worker’s death. The Buildings Department required Bovis to provide safety training for workers, weekly safety meetings on site and hire additional site-safety managers for the order to be lifted.

    In the meantime, a lawsuit filed by the Soho Alliance will be heard on Friday in front of the State Supreme Court, as the neighborhood organization has charged the D.O.B. and Board of Standards and Appeals with “an arbitrary and capricious decision by a governmental agency” to let the project be built, said Alliance president Sean Sweeney. The suit, filed after the B.S.A.’s May ruling in favor of Trump Soho, seeks to prove that the D.O.B. was not permitted to issue a permit for the project last year because the condo-hotel is really residential and not allowed in a manufacturing zone.

    “We’re not concerned at all,” Schwarz commented of the suit, which is aimed this time at the city rather than the developer. “We know that the law’s on our side, and that we’ve done everything in compliance with law.”

    Sales activity at the condo-hotel, which Schwarz said is more than half sold, has been spurred by an overseas push by the developers, including recent marketing efforts in Europe and the Middle East. He acknowledged that “most of the buyers are foreign,” fitting the profile of the non-permanent resident stipulated by zoning to live in the building no more than 29 days straight.

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    Trump's lawyer says below in the Downtown Express story: "Sales activity at the condo-hotel, which Schwarz said is more than half sold,"

    "More than half sold"?? Hmm..
    Well at least this lawyer's glass is not half empty.

    Trump announced with great fanfare in January that it was 52% sold and Donald Jr. announced in June it was 60% sold.
    (We assume that the Trumps do not lie, right? The Trumps don't lie, correct? Do we agree that the Trumps would never lie to save face or to salvage a deal gone rotten?)

    So, if the Trumps are to be believed, Trump's own lawyer admits as much that sales have been flat for the past months.

    Did I spell 'foreclosure' correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DowntownGuy View Post
    Trump's lawyer says below in the Downtown Express story: "Sales activity at the condo-hotel, which Schwarz said is more than half sold,"

    "More than half sold"?? Hmm..
    Well at least this lawyer's glass is not half empty.

    Trump announced with great fanfare in January that it was 52% sold and Donald Jr. announced in June it was 60% sold.
    (We assume that the Trumps do not lie, right? The Trumps don't lie, correct? Do we agree that the Trumps would never lie to save face or to salvage a deal gone rotten?)

    So, if the Trumps are to be believed, Trump's own lawyer admits as much that sales have been flat for the past months.

    Did I spell 'foreclosure' correctly?
    Dude get over it, the NIMBYs lost, the building is there it exists. This property has zero chance of going into foreclosure.

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    In Soho, 42 Floors of Trump is Just. Not. Enough.

    Monday, September 15, 2008, by Joey



    There are those in Soho that would still like to see the Trump Soho condo-hotel torn down—but guess what, outraged locals? The building is growing! A curious press release was issued late Friday afternoon by Community Board 2, admonishing the Department of Buildings for permitting the Trump Soho developers to add a 43rd floor to the previously 42-story Spring Street skyscraper. CB2 chair Brad Hoylman wrote:
    It's unfortunate that D.O.B. would reward the developer an extra floor for this extremely flawed project, which is already a blight on the neighborhood. The Buildings Department should be penalizing them for their string of safety violations, not gifting them with more floor space.
    Indeed, here's the public record of the approved permit. So, does this mean that—contrary to popular opinion—people are actually buying these residence-restricted hotel rooms? Maybe The Donald is worth his cut.
    “The Community Board is outraged to have learned that the Buildings Department has unilaterally decided to give the SoHo Trump Condominium-Hotel at 246 Spring Street an additional floor, making the project 43, instead of 42, stories high. It’s unfortunate that D.O.B. would reward the developer an extra floor for this extremely flawed project, which is already a blight on the neighborhood. The Buildings Department should be penalizing them for their string of safety violations, not gifting them with more floor space.

    Moreover, the community had no notice that an extra floor was even being contemplated by the developer. This is particularly troubling since the Community Board has worked hard with D.O.B. and our local elected officials to increase communication between the developer of “Trump SoHo” and the local neighborhood, including instituting a construction hotline (tel. 212-448-3996) and holding monthly meetings with the developer. It’s extremely disappointing that the developer didn’t see fit to give us notice and apparently demonstrates their disregard for the community’s concerns.”
    · Trump Soho [Official Site]
    · Trump Soho coverage [Curbed]

    http://wirednewyork.com/forum/newrep...ote=1&p=250599

    Copyright © 2008 Curbed

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    God I love Trump. Why the hell would one extra floor affect the community seriously.

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    It's open season on kickbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DowntownGuy View Post
    The reason why this project has been stalled is because of the vigilance and legal action of us NIMBYs.

    Check out:Construction Status, November, 2007
    http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=...&yr=2007&mt=11

    Construction Status, August, 2008
    http://www.emporis.com/en/il/pc/?id=...1&yr=2008&mt=8

    Not much work in ten months!!

    42 stories went up in 4 months, and in the next 8 months, Trump can't even complete the glass facade! Ha-ha!
    Thank us for that by creating so much controversy that the DOB is examining this with a fine-tooth comb. A snail works faster than Bovis is doing on this site.

    Score one for us NIMBYs!!

    This project is being investigated by the SEC, the NYS AttorneyGeneral has put several caveats - including the SoHo Alliance lawsuit currently before the NYS Supreme Court - into the Offering Plan.

    That is why sales are dead. That is why he is marketing the PHs solely in the UAE and London. No American is stupid enough to fall for this b.s.

    What lawyer would tell his client to buy into a project that will be in litigation for years to come?

    What lawyer would tell his client to pay $3000 a square foot for a condo that he can only use 120 days a year, that is across the street from a ever-so-chic Manhattan Mini-Storage, kitty-corner from the perpetually gridlocked entrance to the Holland Tunnel (which has the highest PPM readings (carcinogenic diesel-fume emissions) in the City), across from a gritty parking lot, next to a school for juvenile delinquents, in a crappy M-zone blocks away from the real SoHo?

    Trump in January, 2007 claimed there was 52% sold. Six months later, in June, it was up to only 60% sold. No one is buying.

    We NIMBYs are proud of our success in stiffing Trump and making life miserable for any developer who would dare trample on our zoning.
    You're a NIMBY? Trump just added another floor to the building, so would you like to print this out and eat it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianac View Post
    In Soho, 42 Floors of Trump is Just. Not. Enough.

    Monday, September 15, 2008, by Joey



    There are those in Soho that would still like to see the Trump Soho condo-hotel torn down—but guess what, outraged locals? The building is growing! A curious press release was issued late Friday afternoon by Community Board 2, admonishing the Department of Buildings for permitting the Trump Soho developers to add a 43rd floor to the previously 42-story Spring Street skyscraper. CB2 chair Brad Hoylman wrote:
    It's unfortunate that D.O.B. would reward the developer an extra floor for this extremely flawed project, which is already a blight on the neighborhood. The Buildings Department should be penalizing them for their string of safety violations, not gifting them with more floor space.
    Indeed, here's the public record of the approved permit. So, does this mean that—contrary to popular opinion—people are actually buying these residence-restricted hotel rooms? Maybe The Donald is worth his cut.
    “The Community Board is outraged to have learned that the Buildings Department has unilaterally decided to give the SoHo Trump Condominium-Hotel at 246 Spring Street an additional floor, making the project 43, instead of 42, stories high. It’s unfortunate that D.O.B. would reward the developer an extra floor for this extremely flawed project, which is already a blight on the neighborhood. The Buildings Department should be penalizing them for their string of safety violations, not gifting them with more floor space.

    Moreover, the community had no notice that an extra floor was even being contemplated by the developer. This is particularly troubling since the Community Board has worked hard with D.O.B. and our local elected officials to increase communication between the developer of “Trump SoHo” and the local neighborhood, including instituting a construction hotline (tel. 212-448-3996) and holding monthly meetings with the developer. It’s extremely disappointing that the developer didn’t see fit to give us notice and apparently demonstrates their disregard for the community’s concerns.”
    · Trump Soho [Official Site]
    · Trump Soho coverage [Curbed]

    http://wirednewyork.com/forum/newrep...ote=1&p=250599

    Copyright © 2008 Curbed

    Looks like the NIMBYs were caught with their pants down obsessing about the 52% and 60% sold figure that might not even be correct while trump added another floor. I hope he keeps adding floors until this thing is 60 floors, though they probably didn't build the foundation for that height.

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    Trump should had made the tower 80 stories.

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    Has anyone noticed that in the website, under amentieis--SOHI mentioned "Dominion of the top of Trump SoHo will belong to SoHi, a private membership club on the 46th floor"

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