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    I'm really starting to hate this city.

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    Default I know what you mean.

    It's boring. I'd love to move to Europe, but I just can't swing it.
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    Eighth Avenue Livens Up

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    By JAMES GARDNER
    January 22, 2008

    Something strange happens to Central Park West, that prince of thoroughfares, as it heads south past Columbus Circle. Suddenly the dream ends and this noble street turns into a toad — ugly old Eighth Avenue. With the exception of Norman Foster's new Hearst Building at 57th Street, SOM's Worldwide Plaza at 49th Street, and Renzo Piano's recently unveiled Times Building at 41st Street, there is all too little distinction to this weary, workaday stretch of Manhattan. It is almost with relief when, after the porn shops and discount clothing stores of Midtown, Eighth Avenue shatters and disperses at last into the anarchic tangle of streets that make up the West Village.
    Of late, however, Eighth Avenue has become the site of numerous developments, mostly residential, all responding to the improbable cachet that Hell's Kitchen has recently come to enjoy in Manhattan's overheated real estate market. Two of the newest buildings, the Link at 310 W. 52nd St. and the Platinum at Eighth Avenue and 46th Street, are completed or nearly completed, and come to us from the never idle drawing boards of Costas Kondylis & Partners LLP Architects.
    By far the better of the two developments is the Link, a 43-story tower; in fact, the Link is quite simply a better building than we had any reason to expect from 8th Avenue. I would go so far as to say that it is more beautiful than it appears. By that I mean that, to superficial inspection, it looks like yet another drably modernist tower of the sort that abounds along the avenue. But if your eye should linger on it a second longer than it usually does on midtown architecture, you will notice a subtlety and an insinuating grace that grows ever more powerful the more you look at it. Like the Trump World Tower on First Avenue and 47th Street, also designed by Mr. Kondylis's firm, the ruggedly ordinary typology of the Link is enlivened by deceptively graceful proportions.
    There is something of quiet, unflappable authority in the way this silvery and columnar building, with its sharp right angles and slightly cruciform imprint, rises into the air of Midtown. It is so dogmatically, unapologetically rectilinear that in its apparent embrace of tedium, it nevertheless offers real visual interest. Even its window surrounds — which, like those of most new developments, suggest flimsiness and cost-cutting — possess a grit and sufficiency that are usually lacking in projects of this sort.
    The poignancy of the Link's excellence is enhanced by the circumstances of its placement in the urban fabric. It does not front Eighth Avenue, from which it is barred by a truly dreary Hampton Inn, clad in appalling beige brick. Meanwhile, along 51st Street, its access to the street is abruptly blocked by a concrete, bunkerish garage. But along 52nd Street, one lot in from Eighth Avenue, the Link suddenly flowers into unanticipated loveliness. Not its least distinguished element is an entranceway introduced by a perfectly cubic, crystalline pavilion that may be the first, and one hopes not the last, structure in the city to be strongly influenced by the new Apple Store on Fifth Avenue and 58th Street. There is absolutely no reason for this cube to be where it is — occupying the carriage path, as it were, that links the recessed entrance to the street. Rather, it is an architectural folly, a fragile grace note, but one of the utmost elegance.
    Contiguous to the shining glass tower, and part of the same development, is a far smaller structure, six stories high and faced in dark stone, with a curtain-walled midsection. There is a touch of mannerism to its almost parodically diminutive metal balconies. Clearly it is intended to serve as a transition to the lower-lying buildings between Eighth and Ninth avenues. And it is a tribute to the design sense of Costas Kondylis & Partners, as well as to Gal Nauer Architects, which helped in the design, that this seemingly incompatible structure should exist in such harmony with the glass tower just to the east.
    Like the Link, the Platinum is a 43-story structure, but it is a far inferior architectural product. It consists of a tower rising from a black and undistinguished base. The tower itself is a dark affair with ribs of lighter brownish hue. At various points in its shaft's ascent, it acquires slight accretions or diminutions in a trite and meaningless tribute to the deconstructivist style that informs such nearby projects as the Condé Nast and Reuters buildings. If the Link ennobles Eighth Avenue, the Platinum merely aggravates and confirms the general dreariness of the place.
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    Tell me about it!!! The whole area has really cleaned up well since the mid 90's... Can anyone give more info about the hotel goin up on the se corner of 55th and 8th??

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    That site ^ is set to become an office building.

    NY1 reports that the building across from The Platinum, 743 Eighth Avenue, is set to come down next month ...

    Historic Midtown Rehearsal Studio Faces Bulldozer

    NY1
    January 24, 2008

    A rehearsal studio in Midtown with lots of dance and theater history is nearing its final act. NY1’s Shazia Khan filed the following story.

    Fazil's Studio in Midtown Manhattan, called by some a hidden gem, offers big rehearsal rooms for little money, and a history including greats like Gregory Hines and Fred Astaire.

    Originally named Michael's Dance Studio, the Eighth Avenue building has seen a lot of fancy footwork in the Theater District for more than 80 years. But that run is coming to an end. The studio and the rest of the block are set for demolition as soon as next month.

    “This used to be the studio for Broadway in the olden days,” says Fazil’s co-owner Serpil Civan. “We got Fred Astaire, James Cagney – they all practiced here. As a matter of fact in ‘Easter Parade,’ Fred Astaire says to Judy Garland, ‘Let’s go to Michael's and practice,’ and this was Michael's.”

    Fazil Cengiz and his family have owned and operated the space for more than three decades.

    “People enter here from very young ages or any age and then they find what they love and see all other forms of dances,” says Cengiz.

    Broadway actors Noah Racey, who is currently performing in "Curtains," and Jeffry Denman are long-time patrons, and say Fazil's is an asset to the dance community.

    “It's history. You can feel it in the halls in the walls and the floors. It’s a place where everybody has come here to shed, you know. Meaning to work on their own stuff,” says Racey.

    “It's such a shame when we see places like this go under the bulldozer, because it means a lot to us. The place means a lot. I don't think you can put a price tag on what this place means for the dancers who have danced here,” says Denman.

    Owners of the studio say they've been told the building must come down to make way for a new condominium and hotel complex. Before that happens, Fazil and his family have been asking dancers to sign the walls of studio A1.

    The studio was a personal favorite of tap legend Gregory Hines and was recreated in his 1989 film "Tap.”

    As for what happens when the building does come down, the owners say they'd like to see a big final number.

    “I'm going to try and arrange a dance outside,” says Civan. “I want all our dancers to come in on Eighth Avenue and we're going to have a big dance off. They can't bring down this building without a great big dance off.”

    For now, dancers continue to do what they do best at Fazil’s, while they still can.

    Copyright © 2008 NY1 News.

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    ^ But isn't that site suppose to be part of the 301 46th proposal from a couple of years ago?

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    What's going up at the corner of 43rd and 8th opposite the Westin? Can't seem to remember or find a thread for it.

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    luckily the buildinigs at NW corner of 43rd / Eighth are NOT coming down.

    No real plans are in store for the block on Eighth between 42nd / 43rd, directly opposite the Westin.

    However the SW corner of 44th / Eighth has now been leveled (pics below) for this:

    Tishman Hotel - 8th Avenue and 44th Street

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    OH I'm sorry thats the block I meant. So its 44th wasn't sure, I was passing by and noticed the huge space, didn't take note of the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylimitone View Post
    What's going up at the corner of 43rd and 8th opposite the Westin? Can't seem to remember or find a thread for it.

    YES, That is exactly what I'm on this thread (and at the site today) researching to find out.






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    Nothing specific is planned for that corner.

    Search around WNY and you'll find there was discussion about a year ago for some project involving 300 W 43 going west (inlduing the union building and part of the parking lot along W 43) and the northern part of the block front along Eighth Avenue -- it's an L shaped plot wrapping around the comedy club tower (but not including either that building or the Duane Reade building on the NW corner of Eighth / 42nd).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Nothing specific is planned for that corner.

    Search around WNY and you'll find there was discussion about a year ago for some project involving 300 W 43 going west (inlduing the union building and part of the parking lot along W 43) and the northern part of the block front along Eighth Avenue -- it's an L shaped plot wrapping around the comedy club tower (but not including either that building or the Duane Reade building on the NW corner of Eighth / 42nd).

    Oh, something is planned there.
    Something has gone past being planned, something is being done.

    You're talking about a year ago. I'm talking about the last 2 weeks.

    They've torn down all the buildings and put up a blue fence for half a city block down the south side of 43rd, going West from 8th Avenue. When I walked by a couple days ago there were men and machines over there busy as bees. The foot-print is huge.




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    You're confusing the blocks ...

    Like I wrote a few posts back: the site you are talking about is one block north, on the corner of 44th / Eighth and is the Tishman Hotel site -- NOT the site / block OPPOSITE the Westin at 43rd / Eighth (which I just described).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris View Post

    I'm talking about the last 2 weeks.

    They've torn down all the buildings and put up a blue fence for half a city block down the south side of 43rd ...
    Oh ... you mean that site I posted a photo of last week

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Oh ... you mean that site I posted a photo of last week


    Ah yes, indeed, that is what I mean.

    Thank you.

    Um... but does anyone know what is going there?

    Residential, I hope.




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