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    The SLCE rendering showed a more pronounced white section on the Reade St side that would have related better to the cast iron 287 Broadway. The larger rendering shows the same glass with minimal white trim.

    At least they photoshopped out the "Fulton Dental Center" sign that's been slapped on 287, something LPC has been unwilling to do for years.

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    This building is being built by a Chicago developer and I don't think I've ever seen a more Chicago-looking building than this, this proposal looks like any number of proposals they currently have in Chicago.

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    Then they should go back to Chicago -- and take their dreck with them.

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    Talking Yeah.

    We have our own dreck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    Then they should go back to Chicago -- and take their dreck with them.
    What's interesting is that there was a previous design for the same site by a Chicago architect, although I'm not sure if the developer was the same or not. I saw these renderings a long time ago on their website and wondered if the project went through, but now I guess I know the answer.



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    ^ That is infinitely better than the current one by SLCE, with its dumb balconies and tired patchwork facade.

    I am convinced that Chicago anything is better than their New York equivalents.

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    Creative Construction at Reade and Broadway

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    Thursday, January 3, 2008
    by Pete



    Consider, if you will, the construction site at 279-285 Broadway / 57 Reade,
    just north of Chambers Street and catty-corner to City Hall Park. The rendering
    above left is a bit of architectural creativity from SLCE Architects, who are responsible
    for the 20-ish story blue glass condo set to rise on the site. To the right is a little
    old Landmarked beauty at 287 Broadway / 55 Reade, and danged if she's not looking
    a wee bit tipsy. We broke some news on this one back in November when the occupants
    there were cleared out following some unfortunate unpderpinning problems
    at the SLCE site next door. In response to DOB's Stop Work Order Chicago-based
    developer John Buck and gang have now augered some test piles. And that's where
    the creativity comes in.


    The wooden installation serves to stabilize the older structure to the north.

    The criss-cross assemblage propping up 289's bricks and cast iron is a wonder
    of low-tech construction. The materials include lots of wood and nails, and not
    much else. It all seems to be a bit of magic and echoes the dream-like quasi-utilitarian works
    of sculptor Martin Puryear, currently on exhibit at MoMA in midtown. And, for a while
    anyway, this old building joins other leaning wonders of New York, be
    they real or simply imagined.


    Side by side: The work of sculptor Puryear and that
    of an anonymous NYC construction crew.


    The wooden bracing in all its glory.

    · Building Collapse Betting Pool: 287 Broadway Evacuated [Curbed]
    · Project Updates: 57 Reade Street [Lower Manhattan Info website]
    · Exhibitions: Martin Puryear [MoMA website]

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    Fears of Collapse for Tilting Landmark

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    Guarding against the possible collapse of an 1872 cast iron landmark building at Broadway and Reade Street, the Department of Buildings (DOB) halted excavation for the foundation of a new 20-story apartment tower next door and has ordered the building vacated.

    The agency took those actions after a Nov. 30 inspection found that the building, at 287 Broadway, was leaning nine inches to the south. With work stopped, the developer, the John Buck Company of Chicago, erected a temporary wooden structure to shore the exposed south wall of the building. The new tower would wrap around the landmark, from 285 Broadway to 57 Reade Street.

    Late last month the building remained empty and the work halted as the Department of Buildings reviewed the developer’s permanent shore plans to replace the wooden beams with steel and “demonstrate that they will proceed with the utmost care,” according to a DOB spokeswoman.

    The fate of 287 Broadway remains uncertain, according to Kenneth Dubow, the property manager for the owner, Century Realty. He said it is “possible” that the building’s problems cannot be fixed and all or part of the structure may not be saved. His engineers, he said, “are casting doubt on whether it’s feasible to jack up the building and get rid of the tilt.”

    “Cast iron is difficult to deal with,” Dubow added.

    Monitors measuring the building’s movement give inconsistent readings, Dubow said. “The city is very cognizant of the [situation] and monitoring it closely.”




    DOB spokeswoman Kate Lindquist said the landmark structure is not in danger of collapse “at this time.”

    The DOB would have to declare the building “an immediate threat to public safety” in order for the Landmarks Preservation Commission to allow the building to come down, said Landmarks spokeswoman Lisi de Bourbon. That would be “extremely rare,” she said. “Something can always be done to make a building habitable.”

    Dubow said the building has three residential units. Not knowing when, or if, the residents can return, he said, “they are all very upset. We feel horrible for them.”

    “I’m homeless,” Cora Cohen, an artist, said when reached by phone. But she and another tenant, artist Matthias Leutrum, would not talk about their situations. Cohen said they were too “overwhelmed” to speak to a reporter.

    Four commercial tenants occupy the building’s ground floor. “I feel very depressed,” said Luis Guaman, 46, owner of a shoe store in the building. Not only has he missed a peak season for business, he said, but he worries about his four workers who have been unemployed during the holidays. “It is like I have had my hands cut off,” he said.




    Andrea Ljahnicky, a five-year tenant of 287 Broadway who moved out permanently with her husband and child, said the excavation work “felt like an earthquake.”

    “I’m very concerned about the building,” Ljahnicky, an architect, said. “It wasn’t in good shape to begin with.”

    Last January, building inspectors halted demolition on the second floor of the building, citing the lack of a permit and hazardous conditions. The landlord, Century Realty, is owned by the Gindi family, whose holdings include a number of Tribeca buildings as well as the department store Century 21.

    The Landmarks Preservation Commission designated 287 Broadway as a landmark in 1988, noting that it is one of the city’s few surviving examples of cast iron Italianate and French Second Empire architecture. The building is striking, with its high mansard roof and large, arched windows separated by Ionic columns.

    The DOB’s Kate Lindquist said in an e-mail that the owners’ engineers reported that the building was leaning four inches, due to settlement, before excavation began. Afterwards, she said, monitors showed the building had tilted another three to four inches.

    Calls to the developer, the John Buck Company, were not returned.

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    It would be sad to lose this gem.

    I wish that the filthy Spaghetti Western building next to this site had been damaged.

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    So neighborly of these two gangs from Chicago (SLCE / John Buck) to come to NYC and wreak havoc. A cynic might think that they'd just as soon have the Landmarked building on the corner fall down.

    This dreary project at 57 Reade has been a complete mess (better described using a now-banned acronym) since that crass rendering of blue glass was first revealed.

    You would think that with the number of these underpinning problems regarding new construction next to old buildings which have continued to spring up over the past few years (the on-going disaster at Grand / Wooster, the McSam debacle at 370 Canal, Avalon Bowery / 2nd Avenue collapse among others) that DOB would require greater care -- and that developers would get a clue.

    There should be very stiff penalties when a developer / builder causes harm to neighboring buildings -- particularly if the buildings affected are Landmarked structures.

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    DOB / LPC should force SLCE / Buck to pay for the removal of the cast-iron facade on 55 Reade -- and then make them shore-up that old building -- rebuild the masonry if necessary -- and then re-install the cast iron. Before allowing anything to move forward on the new site the owner / developer should be mandated to restore the building to pristine condition. No matter the cost.

    A strong message must be sent to builders / owners that such careless behavior is not acceptable. Otherwise non one should be surprised if developers start to view singular old landmarked buildings as completely disposable -- and the cost of paying out insurance to cover the loss of same simply becomes yet another number on the spreadsheet that is passed on to future residents.

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    If the landmarked building does come down, they should make the developer erect an exact replica in its place.

    Quote Originally Posted by londonlawyer View Post
    It would be sad to lose this gem. I wish that the filthy Spaghetti Western building next to this site had been damaged.
    Yes, it always seem to work out that way doesn't it? That filthy building (or any other) probably wouldn't come down that easily (just like another one near GZ that we know of) even if someone really tried.

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    Increased workload

    Construction permits
    1995 - 60,000
    2005 - 113,589

    311 complaint system was initiated in 2003

    Over 50 zoning changes 2002-2006

    Decreased staff

    What began during the Giuliani administration had continued during Bloomberg's first term - the DOB was allowed to shrink through attrition and zero recruitment. Changes were initiated, partly as a result of developer self-certification abuses, and more budget money was allocated in F2006 to hire employees. It's still understaffed.

    The DOB is as important as the FDNY, but it's always under the radar. Close a firehouse, and there's an uproar. Even after a building collapse, the matter quickly fades from public consciousness.

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    Thumbs up ^ Very important post

    for the people on this board that seem to think Bloomberg has 'nothing to do' with development in this town 'because he doesn't work for an architectural firm'.

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