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Thread: 175 Greenwich Street - WTC Tower # 3 - by Richard Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYguy View Post
    Just read from a WSJ article that one option from Silverstein to get Merrill into one of his towers was for a Tower 3 with "several more floors" and about 14 % more space. For that to happen, they would have to throw the site plan right out the window. But the city/state seems intent on keeping Merrill Downtown, so anything is possible.
    The article says the the original floor count was 71 floors, thus 74 may be the new count.

    Good catch...they often have NY/WTC news in the Journal's Real Estate blurbs on Wednesdays.

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    ... a Tower 3 with "several more floors" and about 14 % more space ...
    ... article says the the original floor count was 71 floors, thus 74 may be the new count ...
    3 more floors beyond 71 floors = ~ 4 % increase

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    3 more floors beyond 71 floors = ~ 4 % increase
    It would be 14% by the square footage (not by the number of floors), which would be difficult to calculate unless you had a stacking diagram. The base and top floors would obviously have different floorplates. The article said that 74 floors would likely be the new number...I didn't estimate it.

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    Then the Rogers tower @ 3WTC will en d up with a bit of mid-rif bulge.

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    Why is that?

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    Additonal square footage on a limited site = larger floor plates down low = midrif bulge

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    Why not a taller tower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alonzo-ny View Post
    Why not a taller tower?
    That makes more sense. Adding bulk to the center or bottom would seem to eliminate the need for more floors.

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    Well the ground level footprint is 50,000 sq. ft. and a 14% increase would be about 250,000 sq. ft..
    For the setbacks to remain in proportion if floors are added, the setbacks would have to rise to higher floors. This gives us a couple larger floors on top of the 3 extra.

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    Its a vertical tower so stretching it taller wouldnt diminish the design.

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    Stretching it taller might require additional elevator banks which would dimish floor space and each and every floor. The loss on ~70 floors would be a lot to make up never mind the additional space required.

    Going out on the other hand would make clients who like larger floorplates happy and probably wouldn't require additional elevator banks or the expense of adding floors making the developer happy.

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    Food for thought...doesn't 175 Greenwich seem to be an evolution of the Bloomberg tower design?



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    Get outta town!

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    Although there are some similarities between the two (175 Greenwich and Bloomberg), I'd say the renderings are responsible for that impression way more than anything else.

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