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    Maybe the floors are just slightly bigger? It would be really stupid on their part to shorten this tower that much, it needs to actually be taller (by more than a few feet) than tower 4 for the complex to look good. I would like to see a source that says the tower has been shortened.

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    What address is 3 WTC listed under at the DOB website?

    175 Greenwich Street gives no info there:

    *THIS ADDRESS IS NOT IN PROPERTY FILE--CHECK ITS OTHER ADDRESS IF ANY

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    The entire superblock WTC Site is listed as Block 58, but the current designated Greenwich addresses for 2, 3 & 4 WTC don't lead anywhere.

    30 Church Street aka (2-56 Church) gives a whole listing of buildings, but doesn't seem to show info for current work at 3 WTC.

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    Because it's PA property, the paperwork might not be enitrely up to norms, since it's pretty much optional.

    I did find the whole listing for Block 58, but most of the entries appear to reference the original WTC buildings. Digging through the records reveals what I'd expect for PA property: no permits on-file, a few complaints that go nowhere, and a number of reports from when city inspectors were called in to double check something.
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...=1&allblock=58

    This one, for 4WTC, has several recent complaints.
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...37&requestid=4

    This looks to be the new 2WTC
    http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...ytype=BXS2IQ70

    It would appear, at least for city purposes, that they're using the vanity addresses.
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    Gosh, I really dislike the new version. It looks so flatter and blander than the original Richard Rogers design. It's not just the cross bracing that is missing but the corner notches, the death of the materials...it just looks so much cheaper now and less interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macreator View Post
    It's not just the cross bracing that is missing but the corner notches, the death of the materials...it just looks so much cheaper now and less interesting.

    The interiors have large unobstructed floor plates: into which will go 'open-plan' office partitions; I think the 'rationale' for removing those exterior cross beams was to achieve a wide unobstructed 'panoramic' view from the interior.



    But, admittedly that is all just guesswork - only the developer/architect knows for sure. (LOL)

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    Since UBS isn't leasing this, maybe it won't make it past ground level, and the good design will be restored for when it's eventually built.

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    Bringing more retail above ground in the towers (ala Time Warner Center) is a must have. There is no longer the excuse that the towers were built before the area being so densely residential, and there are now the consumers to support 24(or almost)/7 services.

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    The recent contract between the PA and Westfield America makes it clear that 3WTC will be built to the retail levels. It only carved out an exception for 2WTC, which will add another 90,000 sqft of retail when construction commences on the above ground portion at some point in the future. It makes sense, since 3WTC sits right on the middle of the transit concourse. It's the bridge between the transit hall and 4 World Trade. 2 World Trade is off in the corner and won't disrupt passenger/customer flows if it isn't built right away.

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    That redesign is just terrible. Unbelievable.

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    Wow nice. 2 WTC looks weird from that angle.

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    The diagonal bracing no longer seems to have any relationship to the building; it now looks like a decorative tack-on.

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    I believe the braces are a way to connect 3 to 1 & 2, which are dominated by diagonals.

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