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    The no cross bracing does emphasize the height of the building but it also makes the building look fragmented. It is like it is two different buildings merged into one.

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    Given the posting date (8/25/2011) that big image above seems to have been created based on the design at mid-2011.

    All the images found at Team Macarie now show this:

    © Team Macarie 2012. All Rights Reserved

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCguy View Post
    The Base/lobby of this one is incredible. If only something like this could be done on tower 1...
    But that would create a security risk!

    Dontcha know? Anybody with bad deeds in mind will be so singularly focused on Number 1 that this 1,000 + glass lobbied tower two blocks away will escape all notice

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    ^
    Haha, totally. It would be invisible.

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    I wouldn't conclude anything from the copyright date on the Team Macarie website. They don't own the designs; just the depictions they create.

    It's probably just an error.

    Even the architect's website displays conflicting information. The "visuals" depict the X bracing, but the PDF document shows both.

    The structural engineer depicts the design without the X bracing, but in the building description:
    The defining aspect of 3WTC is its load-sharing system of diagonal bracing, which helps to articulate the building's east-west configuration

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    A beauty.

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    That parametric model of the steel superstructure is fantastic: BIM is the best. It seems to me that the new computer modeling methodologies will be as much a boon to builders/fabricators as it is to the architects and engineers.

    On-site photos from IrishinNYC, parametric drawings from O'Daniel: what can one say - today is a great day. Architecture/Construction/NY Real Estate scouts everywhere must be delighted: I know I am - thanx fellas.

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    The parametric (Word of the Day!) model labeled "Side View" answers a question that's been rumbling around in my head:

    Will the western base facade of 3WTC along Greenwich follow the street line (Greenwich has a slight bend to the NW north of Cortland) or will the base conform with the rectilinearity of the tower?

    That image shows that the base will follow the course of Greenwich Street, and create a street wall along the property line (rather than pulling back, and creating a small wedge plaza at the SE corner of Greenwich & Dey).

    With the big plaza around the Calatrava Oculus just to the north I think the openness of that little wedge would have been a good idea, allowing a wider view across the Memorial site. But what do I know

    PS: I think the "Side View" and "Front View" should have their labels switched.

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    Tower 2 looks like it sits on axis, and forms a wedge between the hub and its southern face.

    Tower 3's trading floors looks like it follows the Greenwich Street line, while Tower 4's parallelogram shape seals the deal.

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    Reminds me of Tetris. Does anyone know why a (seemingly) symmetrical building has these internal asymmetries?

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    I guess because building mechanical systems aren't necessarily symmetrical.

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