From my understanding these towers had to be iconic and follow some sort of spiraling pattern. This Tower 4 is a joke. That setback at 700 ft is horribly executed and it literally looks like cubes stacked on top of each other. Lame shape, lame flattop roof and way too tall for a tower of this bad-caliber architecture. Perhaps the finished product looks alot better, but after seeing what I saw (unless they change it dramatically) I doubt it.
This tower could have pushed this whole complex over the edge and brought it up another level of excitement but this and the FT give it an anti-climatic presence of disappointment as opposed to the transportation hub, WTC2 and WTC3 in which you actually feel proud to have them built. All this of course IMO.
I took a little more time to go over the renderings given for this tower today (I'm still on rendering overload).
From what I've seen, this tower will have some of the best public space, including the restaurant overlooking the memorial. That atrium seems nice.
I just think a tower this gargantuan needs a little more detail at the top. Something to distinguish it a little more. It will be one of the tallest in New York, yet you probably couldn't pick it out of a lineup.
From the NYTimes slideshow of renderings, a slightly different angle that shows the entire building from the street level up:
Like I mentioned earlier, part of the problem is that its too simple to be
recognized anywhere. Maybe it needs the ornamentation at the top like
the rest of the family, similar to the way all of the World Financial Center
towers have distinctive tops. But it does have a somewhat sleek look to it,
even though it could lose some weight.
If Maki were to chamfer that corner on the lower part of the tower at the NW a bit -- not much, but something that perhaps widens a bit as it rises ...
Perhaps something like this ...
Definitely agree with the constructive criticisms of this tower. Reducing the bulk a little bit would make it soar (as Rogers realized in designing Tower 3), and doing something innovative with the crown - not anything flashy, just a nice "gesture" - would go a long way in completing this building. Right now, it really does look like a massing model.
But will Maki come through? I've been getting the sense that he's way too committed to the minimalist approach to make those changes. Is this something that should have been foreseen?
Someone mentioned in one of the other threads that Silverstein should have gone with Nouvel or Koolhaas for this one. I disagree - I think either of them would have given us something crazy and foreign-looking. Rogers and Foster made an excellent duo, but who could have designed a killer tower 4? I'm thinking of some American architects here, specifically, Thom Mayne (Morphosis). One can always dream...
More images with the NW corner of the base tower slightly chamfered ...
and a more detailed image of the chamfered corner ...
Last edited by lofter1; September 9th, 2006 at 02:29 PM.
Nice ^^^ thanks for the link!