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    You're being too generous.

    With a little imagination and know-how even pre-cast "stone" panels and bad glass can be made to look better than this.

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    I agree, these are crap.

    As for retail added...thanks for the gesture, but...another BOA bank branch. Does that rightfully qualify as "retail"?

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    Those skinny supports bug me, lol looks like they were scrimping on materials.

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    Crane partially collapses at Columbus Square

    October 08, 2009

    By Candace Taylor


    Crane strikes scaffolding at 775 Columbus Avenue

    A crane this afternoon struck a piece of scaffolding at 775 Columbus Avenue, a rental building under construction as part of part of the new Columbus Square complex, city officials said.

    There were no injuries, according to a fire department spokesperson, but emergency personnel were on the scene following the 2:15 p.m. collapse, making sure the crane was secure. It was not clear at press time what caused the collision.

    Columbus Square, developed by the Chetrit Group and Stellar Management, is a complex of five new glass rental buildings going up around Columbus Avenue between 97th and 100th Streets. It faced years of opposition from neighbors before construction began.

    A spokesperson for Columbus Square confirmed that no one was hurt and that leasing has not yet started at 775 Columbus Ave.

    Two other buildings in the complex, 808 Columbus Avenue and 801 Amsterdam Avenue, have started renting.

    http://therealdeal.com/newyork/artic...lar-management

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    Oh oh these buildings will probably be delayed again.

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    These pieces of crap really make me miss the tennis courts and parking lots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrightfan View Post
    These pieces of crap really make me miss ......
    This is a project that I have completely forgotten about: thanks for bringing it up - no news is not nessessarliy always good news.

    Anyway, yes not nice at all, but this unattractive, generic, artless type of building will (for some reason) always comprise the majority of the stock of buildings in any and every city in the world; I can not think of one city where that is not currently the case.

    It is what it is: and this is better than the empty lots/tennis courts.

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    Columbus Square's Penthouse Mania Now for Rent

    February 22, 2010, by Joey








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    It's an established fact that when Columbus Square does something, it does it big. The new rental community—created from scratch in a quiet corner of the Upper West Side—brought in Whole Foods as its grocer and Michael's as its craft superstore, and includes five apartment buildings adding up to over 700 apartments. That bigger-is-better theme has now carried through to the recently unveiled Penthouse Collection at 808 Columbus Avenue. The megaproject's tallest building and crown jewel (359 units, saltwater pool, two acres of elevated landscaping, etc.) doesn't have just one or two or even 10 penthouses. It has over 30.

    We're dealing with quite a hefty lineup of apartments: studios through 4BRs, starting at $2,580 $3,350 per month. (UPDATE: Apologies, $2,580 is the starting price for all units in the building). The units are classified as "penthouses" for their higher ceilings and private terraces, and of course they're on the higher floors of 808 Columbus. Now, a penthouse below a building's top floor might be heresy to some, but the Central Park views we spied on our tour of the building should still fill any Penthouse Collection renter with the sudden urge to scream, "I'm king of the world!" For the sake of the neighbors, please don't.

    Columbus Square [columbussq.com]
    Columbus Square coverage [Curbed]

    http://curbed.com/archives/2010/02/2..._rent.php#more

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    Chainification Complete, Columbus Square Looks to the Little Guys

    January 10, 2011, by Joey Arak



    Walmart just unveiled a New York-focused website meant to ease the city into accepting the retail giant ("Helping NYC Save Money and Live Better"), a website the Times writes "has more in common with the Internet face of a politician running for office than a retail chain encouraging shoppers to drop by between the hours of 10 a.m. and 10 p.m." Does Walmart really need to expend the energy? The city is now littered with big box stores and chain retailers, and nowhere is that more apparent than the Upper West Side's Columbus Square rental/retail megacomplex between 97th and 100th Streets.

    In a press release sent out today, commercial brokerage Winick Realty Group announced the search for some "neighborhood tenants" and "local businesses" to fill out the remaining storefronts. The roster of Columbus Square retailers so far? It includes Whole Foods, TJ Maxx, Sephora, Michael's Arts & Crafts, HomeGoods, Duane Reade, Bank of America, Chase Bank, Modell's and Petco. According to the brokers, "This amazing development has brought new life to the Upper West Side and we want community businesses to help complete the equation of life, shopping, convenience and excitement in the area."

    Would Walmart really be so different from the rest of the city's big box invasion? Well, none of the others needed their own propaganda arms, at least.

    Walmart New York City [walmartnyc.com via City Room]

    http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2011/0..._guys.php#more

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    Columbus Square Makes Room For Mom and Pop Amid Big-Box Stores

    Winick Realty says it wants to bring mom and pop stores to Columbus Square, a retail complex full of big-box chains.

    By Leslie Albrecht


    A sign in the window of a grocery store across from Columbus Square reminds shoppers to
    spend their money at local businesses. (DNAinfo/Leslie Albrecht)


    UPPER WEST SIDE — Wanted at Columbus Square: mom and pop stores.

    The retail complex that Upper West Siders complained was flooding their neighborhood with chain stores says it wants to rent space to small neighborhood businesses.
    Columbus Square, which opened in 2009, is home to Whole Foods, T.J. Maxx, Sephora, Michael's and other big-box stores usually found in suburban malls.

    "We want community businesses to help complete the equation of life, shopping, convenience and excitement in the area," said Winick's Executive Vice President Lori Shabtai in an e-mailed statement.

    Representatives for Winick wouldn't say how many small retails spaces are available or how much they'll charge in rent. Columbus Square covers six blocks between West 97th and West 100th streets along Columbus and Amsterdam avenues. It also includes 780 apartments.

    Paul Bunten, president of West Siders for Public Participation, said he laughed out loud when he heard that Winick is looking for small businesses.


    Winick Realty says it's looking for mom and pop
    stores to rent space at Columbus Square, a retail
    complex full of big-box stores. (DNAinfo/Leslie Albrecht)


    Bunten sued developers in 2008 over Columbus Square, claiming the area wasn't zoned for chain stores.

    He said residents have been telling Winick for years that they're desperate for small stores to serve basic needs, but the requests have fallen on deaf ears.

    "We can buy pet food and cosmetics, but we can't buy a newspaper or get copies made," Bunten said. "[Winick] didn’t ever listen to the neighborhood when we said we needed our daily needs met by the stores, and now they’re turning around and saying they want them. I'm glad they've finally understood that men cannot live by big-box retail alone."

    Some smaller business owners in the area also said they were skeptical about Winick's bid to recruit mom and pop stores.

    Imran Ali, assistant manager at Columbus Wines and Spirits, and Paul Singh, owner of Sing & Sing Market across from Whole Foods, both said they doubted any neighborhood business would be able to afford rents at Columbus Square.

    "What a hypocrisy," said Anne Cottavoz, owner of Columbus Natural Food, a small business one block south of Columbus Square. "The big stores are there to get rid of the small stores. They've been advertising those spaces for three years and it's still empty.

    That's why they're being so generous now."

    Cottavoz, who said she's faced stiff competition from Whole Foods, recently posted a sign in her window urging customers to shop at local businesses like hers.

    "People need to get the message," Cottavoz said. "If you want a store to be there, you need to shop there."

    A recent study by the Center for an Urban Future found a 17 percent jump in the number of national chain stores on the Upper West Side between 2009 to 2010. The neighborhood had 68 such stores in 2009 and 80 in 2010.

    http://www.dnainfo.com/20110111/uppe...#ixzz1AtLlwGlw

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    Luxury Project on Columbus Stirs Up Area

    By CRAIG KARMIN

    A sprawling luxury-residential and retail complex is finishing construction on Columbus Avenue, completing one of the most ambitious projects the Upper West Side has seen in many years.



    Unlike most of the other high-end rental towers popping up on Manhattan's West Side, Columbus Square bills itself as a self-contained village. It boasts 500,000 square feet of retail space, including a Whole Foods, Modell's and a TJ Maxx, 710 rental apartments with elevated landscaped gardens, two private schools and a $650 million price tag.

    That's a lot of units to fill at premium prices, but demand has been strong so far. The first two buildings, where one-bedrooms start around $3,500-a-month, are fully leased.

    A third building that recently opened for business was 20% leased after the first 10 days, the building's management says. The final two residential towers expect to begin leasing in the next two months.

    The influx of affluent new residents and big-box stores to the neighborhood, which is close to blocks of rent-stabilized apartments and a public housing project, is sparking debate about whether Columbus Square is a boon to the area or a reproach.





    Critics charge the developers—a partnership between Stellar Management Co. and Chetrit Group—have altered the neighborhood's character, turning the area between 97th and 100th streets along Columbus and Amsterdam avenues into a suburban village that is increasingly inhospitable to the area's lower-income tenants. Other locals suggest the project has re-energized the neighborhood and made it safer.

    Either way, says Elliott Sclar, an urban planning professor at Columbia University, Columbus Square is a signature development of our time, just as the red-brick slab towers surrounding the site were once the vanguard of mid-20th century urban development.

    "Columbus Square was clearly designed to reflect a renewed appreciation for street life and for stores that are already popular in the suburbs," he says. "Developers have to go for the high-end tenants because it's expensive to put up something like that."

    The new project was built on grounds that were next to Park West Village. That project, completed in 1961, was part of a Robert Moses plan for clearing large swaths of tenement sites in the city and replacing them with towers of moderate-income housing.

    In 1972, developer Harry Helmsley acquired the property and, in the 1980s, his company converted four of the buildings to condos.



    Stellar and Chetrit bought the property in 2000 from Leona Helmsley for $122 million. The purchase included 600 unsold condos at four buildings and three rent-stabilized buildings.

    It also included tennis courts and a retail space that catered to the neighborhood—mom-and-pop shops and a discount store—that were torn down for the new buildings.

    Germany's HSH Nordbank provided financing for Columbus Square. When the bank ran into trouble during the financial crisis, the developers' loans dried up and they were forced to put more of their own money into the project to keep construction going through the recession, says Laurence Gluck, Stellar's founder and principal.

    With the construction's end in sight, the developers are in the final stages of extending debt on the last building. Mr. Gluck added that they won't take on additional leverage.

    "We thought the market on the Upper West Side was somewhat bereft of high-end product," Mr. Gluck says. "Because of its grand scale, we felt we could build a new neighborhood that would be an attraction itself."

    Not everyone feels it's for the better. Some long-time residents in the area who are aware that developers, including Stellar, acquire affordable housing buildings and upgrade them to raise rents have been particularly skeptical.

    "It's changing the character of the neighborhood substantially," says Sue Susman, who has lived at West 97th Street since 1969. "It feels like Madison and 54th Street."

    She says the new retail has brought more traffic and congestion to the area, while Whole Foods and some of the other stores are priced beyond the means of many residents.



    Even so, she adds, the new buildings have made the area safer than when the empty tennis courts could be a dangerous place after dark. "It used to be a little scary," Ms. Susman says. "Not now."

    Hector Cardona, who has lived at 93rd Street for 35 years and grew up in the neighborhood, says Columbus Square has made the street more vibrant. "It gives us a lot more life," he says.

    The developers and Winick Realty, the retail broker for the project, say they are sensitive to finding stores that will attract area residents outside Columbus Square. Associated Supermarkets, a more modestly priced alternative to Whole Foods, opened late last year.

    Following neighborhood complaints about a lack of basic services at Columbus Square, a dry cleaner opened recently, though management says a dry cleaning shop was always planned. One of the private schools, which is open to children throughout the city, has 500 applicants for 20 spots in the pre-school program.

    Still, residential brokers say it's usually the amenities and concentration of retail that have been attracting tenants.

    One building features a salt-water pool and a three-block long outdoor sundeck. The project also offers zebrawood cabinets, Italian porcelain tile and radiant heat in some bathroom floors.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

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