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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Oz
    I'm from Perth, Oz ...
    Well my foreign friend -- you are even more likely to get ripped off in any NYC restaurant / bar (simply due to the outrageous prices ) or hotel (same reason) -- but I guess in those situations you have agreed to have your money taken, so it is not the same, eh?

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    Perhaps, but come on. $1.99 for a 40 Oz of Colt 45? Nothing we have in Oz can compete with that kind of bargain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Oz
    Perhaps, but come on. $1.99 for a 40 Oz of Colt 45? Nothing we have in Oz can compete with that kind of bargain!

    I hear those Munchkins make a mean Barleywine though!!!

    Just ask the Lollipop Guild!

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    so how is fordham in the bronx??? Someone said tremont is bad, does fodham have alot of housing projects...they have st. johns so i firgured they might be a little safer area.

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    I think you need to go back to the drawing board, James. Apartments in Alphabet City are selling for millions of dollars, and Morningside Heights has very nice blocks. And Red Hook? Please.

    Crime is based upon a lot more than housing projects, and criminals are mobile, not the "bored, poor minorities" sitting around waiting outside their apartments, looking for someone to rob.

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    Here's a helpful guide to NYC neighborhoods:

    http://www.newyorkmetro.com/realesta...orhood_map.htm

    Cross reference that information with the crime statistics I posted earlier in the thread, and you will find a much more reliable result than the hysterical warnings about risking your life and offensive sterotyping of poor minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schadenfrau
    Crime is based upon a lot more than housing projects, and criminals are mobile, not the "bored, poor minorities" sitting around waiting outside their apartments, looking for someone to rob.
    Not all of them are, but many are just like that - as sad and as politically incorrect as it is.

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    Many UES-dwelling Russian immigrants are reactionary fools, but not all of them. Sad, but true.

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    Here's a link to a site that details the various ethnic groups in NYC neighborhoods. Should help everyone avoid the ethnic group(s) they hate.

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    I was unaware that Park Slope is a lesbian neighborhood.

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    It seems a bit out of date to me too. The site provides and email address to send in updates. There are still lots of lesbians in PS (and a couple lesbians bars, which is a lot as far as these things go), but I hear they're moving to Bed Sty and Windsor Terrace. Not the most visible demographic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan
    Here's a link to a site that details the various ethnic groups in NYC neighborhoods. Should help everyone avoid the ethnic group(s) they hate.
    Do you always have to look at the glass as half full.....

    ....Of Crap?


    And you know that you have to be careful of those stealth Lesbos. They can sneak up on you in a moments notice and.... Do... LESBIAN THINGS!!!!!!


    Very dangerous!

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    I definitely don't agree with Red Hook or Alphabet City being classified as unsafe.

    I was mugged in Bed-Stuy a few weeks ago, but I'm still not going to avoid it. This is the price you pay for living in a city like New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schadenfrau
    Many UES-dwelling Russian immigrants are reactionary fools, but not all of them. Sad, but true.
    It is very possible that you are right and that most Russian immigrants that populate UES are fools. But here is the difference between your analogy and what I said:

    Fools aren't any more likely to commit violent crimes, so as long as fools are only fooling themselves, it's their problem.

    There's no statistics or any other reliable information that would indicate that russians living on the UES (a very small number) are fools. However, most of the violent crimes in the city, including robberies, assaults and murders are committed in those poor neighborhoods and they are not committed by russian fools - mostly (Russians are much better at cheating people out of their money for which there have been several well-publicized cases).

    It's all a question of probability. When you know that the crime rate is high in a certain area, it does not mean that you're going to be attacked. But if you want to minimize your chances of being attacked or hurt, you better not venture into the areas where most crimes are committed, especially after dark. It's just common sense. But you're so brain-washed that you cannot truthfully and objectively look at the situation. It's obvious that poverty breeds crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSpice
    But you're so brain-washed that you cannot truthfully and objectively look at the situation. It's obvious that poverty breeds crime.
    You're not being objective - you said the weathiest neighborhoods were the safest. Schadenfrau linked to actual crime stats. That's objective. The problem with the question of safety in this context is that people are throwing around racist and classist prejudices (which are subjective). We all have some kind of prejudice, so let's just drop the pretense and acknowledge that the answers most people are throwing out are not objective. Everyone is speaking to their own comfort in certain neighborhoods.

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