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Thread: 47 East 34th Street - by H. Thomas O'Hara

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    Default Facing a SOLID BRICK WALL!

    I know, well, as others have pointed out before that no one in NYC is "guaranteed" a view in perpetuity, but how sad when you currently look out of your window and view one of the world's great structures, and before long, all you see is red brick and mortar! (Not to mention the demise of my life's investment!)

    I don't suppose there is any way to stop this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    Aesthetic standards should be high.

    Shouldnt they?

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    Well the problem with alot of these developers are the costs of construction in NYC. I am sure with the amount of cash these developers are willing to spend for building, they could do wonders in Chicago and supertowers in Dubai. But lots of these developers chooses the cheap way out. So sadly they hire architects like O'Hara or choose to build the simpliest buildings as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lofter1 View Post
    I understand from a developer point of view that this allows for them to build a few stories higher (per FAR regulations), but this is not the answer ...
    The answer is to fix the FAR regulations so they don't generate shit like this. You can't expect the developer to interpose altruism between the regulations and his profit. How much revenue would you personally be willing to give up out of your own pocket for an aesthetic principle if you were the developer?

    If the regulations suck, fix the regulations. They supposedly exist to protect us from the developer's greed, but here they guarantee the disaster they're meant to avert.

    I find it naive that we spend so much time bemoaning developers' lack of altruism. Do we expect altruism from business? Which profit-making business exists to selflessly serve the public? "Charitable business": isn't that an oxymoron?

    Fix the damn regulations!

    Or abandon them altogether; in this case I think you'd be happier with the results if there had been no regulation.

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    What an awful tower. Wow, Mr. O'Hara never fails to deliver the cheapest looking building one can possibly design.

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    I will be sad if this one appears on 34th St. What exactly is he doing with mezzanines to get a 450' 36 story? 76 units ... footprint looks small. I'm curious to see what's up inside, that actually sounds interesting. Maybe. The outside is yuck though.

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    While we're at it, why don't I give you guys one more rendering to look at:



    Ah...yes, I see our O'Hara friend hasn't lost his touch for coming up with the most nauseating crap imaginable.

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    "Well the problem with alot of these developers are the costs of construction in NYC."

    Then WHAT explains the GOOD architecture that gets built?

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    Fabrizio, a lot of it does have to do with costs/profit.

    Many of the better ones are big budget projects.

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    Wow. That is one big blank wall on the side there. Why not take the risk and put in some lot line windows, or is that illegal now?

    Oh yeah, and it's really ugly...

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    "Many of the better ones are big budget projects."

    This is 34th street off of 5th avenue. Anything built here should be attractive by law. This down-grades the block.

    Also: those of you against landmark zones should not be complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    Then WHAT explains the GOOD architecture that gets built?
    Rich folks.

    When you're designing for the stratosphere, you can stop watching construction cost. I'm currently working on a project that's aimed at wealth. The developer says, "forget cost. At this price range many $20/ sq. ft. cost premiums return $50."

    Then there are the crapheads who hire O'Hara and pitch his ordure at the same market, stupid division. Folks who buy into that have themselves to blame for buying a POS.

    But we all suffer because we have to look at all that tastelessness they've bought in their unsophistication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabrizio View Post
    "Many of the better ones are big budget projects."

    This is 34th street off of 5th avenue. Anything built here should be attractive by law. This down-grades the block.

    Also: those of you against landmark zones should not be complaining.
    I would take it one step further.

    Why should good design be just relegated to the prominent corridors?

    It should at least be emphasized, if not required, in all areas.

    This, obviously, is not the case in this city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piranesi View Post
    I don't suppose there is any way to stop this!
    If the construction permits are all issued then I would say no.

    I guess you can fire off some angry letters to the developer and O'Hara just to get off some frustration.

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    ablarc, why don't you practice in New York?

    Without ever seeing any of your works, I'm certain you will be light years better than O'Hara/Kaufman.

    Someone needs to oust them out of business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby View Post
    O'Hara/Kaufman...

    Someone needs to oust them out of business.
    I'm sure their clients think they're well served.

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