View Poll Results: Which starchitects deserve a demotion?

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  • Calatrava

    1 2.44%
  • Foster

    2 4.88%
  • Gehry

    7 17.07%
  • Zaha Hadid

    8 19.51%
  • Libeskind

    21 51.22%
  • Koolhaas

    10 24.39%
  • Mayne

    3 7.32%
  • Nouvel

    5 12.20%
  • Diller & Scofidio

    11 26.83%
  • Piano

    9 21.95%
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Thread: Which Starchitect Deserves Demotion?

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    Default Which Starchitect Deserves Demotion?

    Quote Originally Posted by BPC
    How about 2 polls:

    #1: Which one of these 10 "starchitects" deserves a demotion?
    #2: Which one of these 10 non-"starchitects" deserves a promotion?
    OK, here goes #1.

    Vote for any number.

    Of course I'll get roasted for my choice of starchitects.

    If more than ten were allowed in a poll, I would have added:

    Rogers
    Herzog & deMeuron
    Graves
    Ten Arquitectos
    Eisenman
    Pelli
    Stern
    Meier
    Gwathmey
    Tschumi
    Pontzamparc
    Maki
    Venturi
    Arquitectonica
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    Not bad. Suggestions: give me Pelli and Meier instead of Libeskind and Diller/Sclofidio.

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    Diller Scofido can be truly excrable, but will probably get a boost of public goodwill when their art museum opens in Boston.

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    Wow, I picked the three that are far and away at the lead of the pack to be demoted - Libeskind, Koolhas and D/S; of course this being when a whopping 9 people, including myself, having voted so far. But even at this early point in the poll, it's interesting to note the consensus (or to use Pianoman's words, "the barometer of our collective feelings") among us regarding who is over-hyped.
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    Make that 10, I just voted for/against Libeskind.
    If multiple votes were allowed, I would include Nouvel and Maki as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antinimby
    Make that 10, I just voted for/against Libeskind.
    If multiple votes were allowed, I would include Nouvel and Maki as well.
    You can vote for up to 10 architects to be demoted.

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    Is Mayne too obscure to register on this poll? Or is he really as good as Foster and Calatrava?

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    Well, he did win the Pritzker last year. That's got to mean something. But then again, so did Koolhaas...

    I think at least within the realm of New York architecture, he's not prolific enough (yet) to register as strongly in people's minds as a Pelli, Meier, or Gwathmey.

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    Gehry is creative and such but fact is that most of what he has put fourth is not engineerable

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    The Statue of Liberty was engineerable.

    You could even engineer it standing on its torch, though it would be hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kliq6
    Gehry is creative and such but fact is that most of what he has put fourth is not engineerable

    It is, but it is not practical.

    You can build a hell of a lot given the right resources.

    The Statue of Liberty was engineerable.

    You could even engineer it standing on its torch, though it would be hard.
    Not really. You would have to change things in the statue itself to allow that. Also, the arm would have to be, if it was possible, solid steel to resist the wind loading for design on the rest of the statue.

    Your point is taken, but your example needs a bit of work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninjahedge
    ...the arm would have to be, if it was possible, solid steel to resist the wind loading for design on the rest of the statue.
    Engineering it already?

    Q.E.D.

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    At this point, it seems Calatrava and Foster are definitively conceded starchitect status by forumers, with Mayne as dark horse. Dark because unfamiliar?

    Libeskind is an unloved child.

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    Had this poll been conducted in the interregnum between the Jewish Museum and the Ground Zero fiasco, people would think differently.

    Mayne is not very prolific on the East Coast. Californians might be more opinionated. My impression is that he's improving; the federal building in San Francisco is better than the heaving pile he's erected in LA.

    Am I the only one who finds Foster and Calatrava objectionable on the sole grounds they're too safe? Foster seems eminently conservative, and Calatrava a mere aesthete with few intellectual ambitions. The interesting thing about this list is that the architects at the centre are probably the most skilled at fusing theory and practice. The result of the poll seems to be a consequence of this forum squarely preferring the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czsz
    Had this poll been conducted in the interregnum between the Jewish Museum and the Ground Zero fiasco, people would think differently.
    Libeskind wouldn't have made the poll then. The Jewish Museum got publicity, but that alone didn't put him into the "Starchitect" echelon. Though, I'd agree that the WTC commision has soured his reputation a great deal and that that might be unfair.

    Am I the only one who finds Foster and Calatrava objectionable on the sole grounds they're too safe? Foster seems eminently conservative, and Calatrava a mere aesthete with few intellectual ambitions.
    What are you calling conservative regarding Foster and Calatrava? They're not the most liberal, but they don't seem all that conservative to me. What does conservative mean to you?

    The interesting thing about this list is that the architects at the centre are probably the most skilled at fusing theory and practice. The result of the poll seems to be a consequence of this forum squarely preferring the latter.
    I'm not sure what you mean. The latter of what?

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