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    The mottled patina, when seen as a whole, gives it just the right amount of urban. You can criticize a 10' section of the reveal but overall it looks great.

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    Just about done, and I gotta say I'm not loving it.


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    I feel like the white window framing really diminishes the building. I feel like something darker/more consistent/less contrast-y would have made for a better composition. Something like Aqua in Chicago. Related, if the balconies/floor reveals were all painted bright white (also like Aqua), that too would have helped the building pop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kz1000ps View Post
    Just about done, and I gotta say I'm not loving it.

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    That about sums it up: I am liking the outcome - "but not loving it". The whole project seems to have over promised; and under delivered. Too much hype, and architectural renderings that look way cooler than the 'as built' reality.

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    Agreed, those smaller inset aluminum window frames cheapen the look of the entire building .

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    Well Roldan, since you mention it, making those smaller window mullions white looks a bit 'off'.. And since we're doing a critique I can't help mentioning those concave exposed floor slabs. The curve looks nice enough when one focuses on it ; but overall it simply looks like value engineered 'exposed concrete floor slab' construction.

    In the architectural renderings that curved feature looks great: but in the 'as built' reality it appears to be an insignificant - perhaps detracting - feature. I say that reservedly because I know creating the 'formwork' on the reinforced concrete was a painstaking, expensive and time consuming process.

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    ^The concave floor slabs is a very minor nit (that seems to only bother you?), those windows however...
    I think they really need that "bean" at the bottom to help salvage this one.

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    Yup, it's the white window frames that betray the design the most..


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    I must agree with others. Very unimpressed. This really does not look like the rendering:

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    Chicago does this stuff much better than NYC. Does anyone know why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastMillinocket View Post
    Chicago does this stuff much better than NYC. Does anyone know why?
    I think your premise is way off. On average, Chicago's recent highrise stock is abysmal compared to NYC.

    Aqua, in terms of urban form, is awful, with a parking base, driveways, blank walls, and the like. It has a very interesting look from some angles, but is hardly a typical Chicago highrise. And it's a rental tower/midpriced hotel. Not really comparable to 56 Leonard except on a very superficial "weird thing with balconies".

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastMillinocket View Post
    Chicago does this stuff much better than NYC. Does anyone know why?
    Daniel Burnham?

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    Welp, a good old black and white filter seems to help things


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    Your pic is marv but NOTHING (except replacement) will help those horrible framed windows.
    They just look (whether true or not) extremely cheap.

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    Very disappointing after the excitement of the original rendering. Those windows are craptacular!

    Even in this rather spiffy video from a few years ago (sorry if it's been posted before), they don't look good. Seems to be a deliberate visual effect. (Bean squishing is cool, though .)


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