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    Default 4 Hudson Square (1.2 million-square-foot office tower)

    Wow a new office tower in the works!


    Hudson Square may draw Viacom lease


    July 12, 2006

    Viacom may be considering re-locating 1 million square feet of its office space to Hudson Square. The company would likely find that space there in a new, 1.2-million-square-foot tower planned for 4 Hudson Square.


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    July 12, 2006

    It's too soon to determine if they'll stay or if they'll go, but in the interim, Viacom is reviewing 1 million square feet of real estate needs that could include relocating offices and the MTV Studios out of 1515 Broadway in Times Square.

    Before you start fretting that you like your MTV in Times Square, realize it's not unusual for a company to periodically review its spatial whereabouts, particularly when they are coming and going, and buying and selling various divisions - and Viacom is no exception.

    But of course, when we hear 1 million square feet, the antennas go up and we pay attention.

    It's also not unusual for the company's rep - in Viacom's case, Michael Laginestra of CB Richard Ellis - to be yakking with various owners of large office buildings to see if, how and when some synergies could be created. Naturally, he would not yak with us.

    It was no surprise, however, to hear that Laginestra had discussed availabilities with Trinity Church, which owns 6 million square feet of offices and retail in Hudson Square. That's the West Side area north of Canal and west of Sixth Avenue.

    The church does happen to have a nice little plot to play with at 4 Hudson Square - now the site of a handful of smaller properties - whereupon a 1.2 million-square-foot office tower is contemplated.

    That contemplation is now getting serious, Trinity's Jason Pizer told us.

    "[Architects Kohn Pedersen Fox] have been hired to create the new building, and they are generating a program and a look in a building," Pizer said.

    One thing Pizer made clear: No tenant is going to swoop in and occupy the entire edifice, putting a seventh of Trinity's portfolio at the mercy of one company.

    For the first time in its 300-year history, Trinity has also hired an outside agency - not for the new building but for One Hudson Square a.k.a. 75 Varick St., which can make 1 million feet available.

    "The building owners need to be competitive and act quickly," said Andrew Peretz, who is leading the Cushman & Wakefield team.


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    "[Architects Kohn Pedersen Fox] have been hired to create the new building, and they are generating a program and a look in a building," Pizer said.
    What do they mean by generating a program? Anybody knows what this architects have done before?

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    This project has been on the board for some time. in terms of a "prgram" that means designing a build for a specific tenant with that tenants needs only considerd. Like the GS tower was designed.

    This is Fox new firm after he broke from Fox and Fowle

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    I thought the Fox from FX/Fox Fowle moved to Cook + Fox, while the Fox in KPF was always a different architect...

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    It probably doesn't matter too much. The bunch of them are crummy architects. And Conde Nast is absymal, too!

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    The "crummy architects," Kohn Pederson Fox: http://www.wirednewyork.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=29

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    This is their website...

    http://www.kpf.com/main.asp

    Uh... lately, they are responsible for Shanghai World Financial Center. I like that new tower. Of course it wont be that tall.

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    What is the address for this building? Where are the cross-streets?

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    More on 4 Hudson Square (catty-corner to the NW from the Trump Hotel / condo site) :


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    So this is will be close to Trumps new Hotel tower then. That is great. Trump's new tower won't be the only biggie in that area it seems. Hopefully I like what this tower will look like ofcourse.

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    KPF has nothing to with Fox and Fowle -- it's SOM's biggest competitor and one of the foremost architecture firms in the world. It also just completed 505 5th avenue, on the corner of 5th and 42nd and was involved with the Jets Stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfgam
    KPF has nothing to with Fox and Fowle -- it's SOM's biggest competitor and one of the foremost architecture firms in the world. It also just completed 505 5th avenue, on the corner of 5th and 42nd and was involved with the Jets Stadium.
    plus 745 Seventh Avenue for Lehman Brothers and ERNST & YOUNG-5 Times Sq.

    they are part of the Big 3
    (1) SOM
    (2) CESAR PELLI
    (3) KPS

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    According to whom? Where were these rankings made? Are they your personal opinion? You are aware (I hope) that David Childs is a principal architect at SOM, right? The only reason I ask is that I recall you wrote something negative about him and his designs in the past.

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