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Old February 19th, 2003, 12:45 AM
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When you think of Downtown you think of WTC rebuilding-forget that for a second. (I'll get to that later)

What else is going down over there?

I can think of 7 WTC ( So here's back to the WTC...does anyone see the irony in this? They easily OK a 750 footer...Why can't they just build a 1500' and only occupy it to lets say...1000'...ahh, whatever)

Also, hows 1 NY place doing? Anyone have information on it?

And, what about other construction/proposed/approved projects Downtown?

Thanks for your help.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 09:39 AM
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The 1 NY Place tower, because it is being considered for the MTA transit center site would have to wait until plans for that move forward. *The developer reportedly wanted to purchase the properties to assemble the site, but if the State is already looking to condemn the properties for the transit center, that wouldn't be necassary. *We'll just have to wait and see.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 12:30 PM
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I didn't include buildings that were under 12 stories or buildings *in Hudson Square, Tribeca, or the Lower East Side else there would be too many.

1 New York Place/First New York Place
Broadway, between Fulton and John Streets
90 stories 1,050 feet
Dev-Davis & Parteners ?KPF?
Proposed

I'm not too excited about this. Something tall would have gone there without Davis anyway. Who gets to develop the land should be decided by competition to ensure something great is built.


7 World Trade Center
52 stories 750ft
Skidmore Owings & Merrill
Under Construction 2002-2005

AP Photo/Silverstein Properties, Jock Pottle


9-12 Barclay Street
~70 stories
Costas Kondylis & Partners
Proposed

http://www.kondylis.com/
Obviously it's a residential tower. They were demolishing one of the buildings the last time I passed.

270 Greenwich Street
38 stories 596 feet 8 inches
Skidmore Owings & Merrill
Proposed 2004/2005

It's ashame they can't get a tenant still.

2 Gold Street
51 stories
Avinash K. Malhotra Architects
Proposed 2003-early 2005

10 Liberty Street
42/45 stories
Stephen B. Jacobs Group
Under Construction 2002-2004

I dont think this is the current design.


Manhattan Supreme Court
Manhattan Civic Center
~40 stories
Ellerbe Beckett/Polshek & Partners - Architects
Proposed

Probably just a study.


Battery Park City Site 2A
Little West Street
360 feet (max)
Proposed


The Seasons/The Habitable Sculpture
?
Phillip Johnson-Alan Ritchie Architects/H. Thomas H. O'Hara
26/28 stories 330/326 feet
Proposed

I hope they pick a site downtown for this.


250 Water Street Tower I
250 Water Street
30/32-->24 stories
Platt, Byard, Dovell
Proposed

Still fighting the people who think it's too big for the seaport and who want a 120 ft height limit.


The Solaire
20 River Terrace
27 stories
Cesar Pelli & Associates
Under Construction 2001-2003

I wish they used more glass.

Battery Park City Site 19B
24 stories
Robert AM Stern
Proposed

by Ernest Burden III \http://users.rcn.com/ebiii/sample.htm
should start soon

Battery Park City Site 18B
24 stories?
Robert AM Stern
Proposed
It's the building in the background of 19B


Tycom Building
Leonard Street and Broadway
240ft
Richard Cook & Associates
Under Construction 2002-?

http://www.tribecatrib.com/newsjan02/news-telecom.html


Foley Square Apartments
111 Worth Street
19 stories
Costas Kondylis & Associates
Under Construction 2001-2003

This retro garbage is almost done.

250 Water Street Tower II
250 Water Street
14-->13 stories
Platt, Byard, Dovell
Proposed
It's is in the rendering of Tower I.


326-328 Spring Street/489-495 Washington Street
11/12 stories
Phillip Johnson/ Alan Ritchie
Proposed


Battery Park City Site 26
Proposed

I dont think that's the real design. it's suppse to be bigger.



Hopefully this will become a reality.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 02:17 PM
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Nice montage Derek - I'm looking forward to a lot of these. I guess we don't have a height for 9-12 Barclay and 2 Gold. I guess we will find out in due time.

I think the "habitable sculpture" by Philip Johnson got cancelled. I'm pretty sure that was going to be his last (and greatest, according to him) project. He's 96 years old now!

Site 26 in BPC looks pretty wicked too - I think this is where they put the spotlights for the "towers of light" memorial last March. Thanx for the updates!
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Old February 19th, 2003, 02:42 PM
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Yeah, nice job. *It's good to see all this being bult downtown.

There is so much going on in NYC... damn I love this town!
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Old February 19th, 2003, 03:40 PM
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Nice work, Derek. *Something to do whilst snowed in?

"This retro garbage is almost done."

I like the way you said that. *I think you're right (at least for Manhattan).
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Old February 19th, 2003, 04:07 PM
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I couldn't find this one at their website.



It's sort of ugly for something so prominent on the skyline, not to mention how it would block some major views of our Woolworth treasure.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 04:09 PM
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Yeah, me neither.

It is pretty damn fugly, though
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Old February 19th, 2003, 05:09 PM
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More on the site of 1 NY Place...(Downtown Express)

M.T.A. presents plans for new Broadway/Nassau center
By: Jane Flanagan February 19, 2003 *

The Fulton subway station will be transformed from a dingy, confusing transfer point into a street-level terminal with natural lighting, wide platforms and easy-to-follow signs, according to an M.T.A. official who spoke recently at a Community Board 1 meeting. *

The station would be easily accessible from the street, which is currently not the case.

"It's like 'Where's Waldo?'" said William Wheeler, director of planning for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, as he pointed to a photo slide of a subway entrance at Dey St. "You can't find it."

Wheeler spoke at a meeting of the board's World Trade Center Redevelopment Committee which was held on Monday, February 10.

Work will begin next year and be completed in 2007, he said. Subway service will continue throughout the construction period with only occasional two-day interruptions over the weekend. It will cost about $750 million.

The street-level terminal will be partially enclosed by glass to provide natural lighting. Signs directing riders to all of the nine subways that converge at Fulton St. will be clearly visible. It will also have escalators and elevators.

There is also a plan to extend the Fulton St. subway one block west underneath Dey Street to Church, via a new pedestrian passageway. It would link it to additional subway lines, the PATH and the World Trade Center site.

Several buildings will be demolished and businesses displaced. It's unclear exactly which ones or how the landlords and business owners would be compensated. Answers will come once the environmental survey is underway, said Wheeler, expected to begin in April or May.

No business owners spoke at the meeting.

Liz Berger, a board member who lives a block from Fulton St., said she welcomes the renovation.

"I've been traveling on that subway for 20 years. It has bugs and rodents, it's the worst," she said.

Louis Tomson, the president of the L.M.D.C. agrees. Speaking at New York Law school last month he said of the station, "It's my least favorite train station in any city in America or Europe."
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Old February 19th, 2003, 06:57 PM
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No mention of a tower in their plans I see.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 07:40 PM
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yes, wow, I had no idea there were so many project going on! the future looks good for Lower Manhattan!
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Old February 19th, 2003, 09:09 PM
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Quote:
Quote: from JMGarcia on 5:57 pm on Feb. 19, 2003
No mention of a tower in their plans I see.
More info on the CB1 meeting. Excerpts from BPC Broadsheet:

Attendees at the WTC Redevelopment Committee meeting were concerned about possible commercial or residential development atop the transit center. Mr Wheeler said the MTA
had not made a decision on this issue - but some were not satisfied with his answer. "Unless you have parallel plans, how can you proceed without knowing if there will be a structure on top?" asked architect Jordan Gruzen. "Plans would progress differently." As Mr Gruzen pointed out, major structural decisions would have to be made in the initial planning stages to allow future building above the transit center.
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Old February 19th, 2003, 09:33 PM
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JerzDevl2000-Last I heard, they were going to try to propose The Seasons somewhere else so I was hoping it would be downtown.

The renderings of 6-12 Barclay Street are here under St. Peter's Rectory. It is being developed by Glenwood Management by the way.

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Old February 19th, 2003, 10:40 PM
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Wow, these buildings look great.
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Old February 20th, 2003, 03:13 AM
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Derek - Thanx for the update on the Seasons. I think that Philip Johnson is America's greatest living architect and our best that we've ever seen (I'm gonna get tons of arguments from the Frank Lloyd Wright aficionado's), but this would be the capstone to a brilliant career and I would like him to see this building's completion!

9-12 Barclay doesn't bother me a whole lot - I'd tweak it's facade/color and have a few more setbacks on it to fit in better with the older towers downtown.
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